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So who will win, and who will be the this rounds vikings?
What will be the most played race, and wich race will be the most present in top20? |
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a bit premature im making no bets till I find out alliance strategies
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didn't we see last round that strategies dont mean squat and it's all to do with politics?
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Imho strategy and consistency is what counts, politics means squat.
If you are in the position and got the luck and blessing of the smaller alliances in the final stages is what allows you to win. HR, FAnG and ROCK had 0% of the top50 and only 5 planets in the top100 last round which might suggest they either had a bad strategy or were playing for some of the other tags. Also FL claims their political choice in the end was one big misunderstanding rather then a planned move |
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What complete utter crap. Last round was all about politics. Plain and simple.
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I agree with clouds
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Understanding, working with and to some extent deciding what other alliances do is integral to your own aims. This is politics.
There was a reason last round that Ult had 5 alliances backing them up and doing there bidding (and why some of those alliances have already agreed to do the same this round). That is politics. |
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Every alliance has their own agenda, and their own ethical code, you cannot make any alliance do anything against their own biddings.
Vikings claimed FL backstabbing them last round, FL denied this saying it was a mistake, a mistake leading to FL winning |
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That's exactly what PA politics is: convincing people to do what you want them to, or to refrain from doing what you don't want them to. You can't control what other alliances do, but you can influence it.
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So back to the prediction........................
1. Immortals (Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha) 2. Ultores 3. CT 4. Vikings 5. Spore 6. Faceless |
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Claiming something was not planned, and then people say it was a well planned political victory is funny |
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1. FAnG
2. Faceless 3. CT 4. Vikings 5. Apprime 6. Ultores 7. Insomnia 8. ND 9. HR 10. ROCK |
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Politics will win, blockers will lose.
Could be a fun round tho, seems like Bitcher has found his retard mojo again! :D Now do i play PA again or stick with FF14? Choices, Choices!! |
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ill vouch for you kai my pal!
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Both games are full of ****s but I think ff14 takes it on every other front. (Anyone playing drop me a message btw) |
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I can feel the love <3
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I'm playing FF13 - 3, lightnings return! badass game.
I don't know which alliances are playing full tag next round. If ultores is full again. #1 Ults. If ult isn't full #1 CT Finally faceless will have the most fun out of you all! ^^ |
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If alliances react to defeat by playing to stop others from winning rather than to improve their own position, then the answer is quite simply to not play politics or be a factor at all until very late in the round, if you can get away with it. This is pretty much how Faceless played last round, and I have my doubts that it was an intentional strategy beyond trying to get individually big planets. Of course if everyone plays like that, then the best alliance (Ultores) will win and then you get back to a state where you need to be more proactive. The scenario for next round is pretty obvious. Ultores are going to throw a huge block at Spore, so there's no one to stop them using a combination of politics and military. This is a good strategy, because arguably there's no one as proactive as Spore to take advantage of that, and there looks to be some kind of attempt to take them out the running, early. The only reason you had politics as such a factor in r55 was because Spore created a scenario where it could happen (the alternative was everyone getting stomped by Ultores). |
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lokken plz you make it sound like there is pre-round block vs spore. you should know ultores dont make pre round blocks, thats just bad politics.
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Any more details of who is bumming who this round?
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Not that what I've described is bad by the way: the idea of Ultores fencing (current view of good politics) as the strongest alliance strikes me as not the way to play it. |
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The problem is, ult come into the round with blocks, and then create more.
Take last round. Spore were happily gal raiding and staying out of war, when ult took a block of ult/hr/rock/fang/vik/FL and hit ct. Spore left with no option but to help out CT or face 1) being next on ults list or 2) peeing of CT and co for not helping and then getting ult block+ct on em. It is a little believed fact that Spore have not entered a round with any agreement. Infact, ct/spore had NO nap in place at any time last round. But sadly, everytime ult plays a round, it ends up with two massive blocks of ult+friends V any alliances not invited into the block. If people just refused to join these blocks it would be a lot better for pa and a much more fluid round. |
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Well I disagree with that: Last round was excellent politically, it just didn't have a satisfying outcome. There's nothing wrong with blocking in itself. Ultores are doing the right thing, because it's less likely that someone will help out Spore, than Spore helping someone else out. And had Ultores defeated CT last round, it would probably have been game over.
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To clarify, ROCK didn't cooperate until the end of the round, as they were busy with Apprime for the most part. FAnG were busy galraiding, they too didn't cooperate until the end of the round. And Lokken, are you even playing PA anymore? *End of the round = mid-end. |
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I blame Zhil...
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a) was it EVERY time? b) Did those 3 alliance attack you 3-4 ticks before Ultores raid or are we talking 1-2 ticks? c) How many planets from each alliance were attacking you? d) What do you consider a Spore fort? e) Could it possibly be that because your planets were fat and all 3 of those alliances are known to hit whatever they like and not care if its a 'fort' that they could have been gal raids? Personally B) is the one i want the answer to the most. Ultores are notoriously late raiders. HR and Rock are known for early raiding. I could quite happily believe that this scenerio could make it look like they were helping when infact they were just raiding fatties. |
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They just happened to launnch on spore the same night and avoid ct/nd.
Or hit ND and avoid spore/ct. Or hit ct and avoid nd/spore. Every time. Yup, coincedence indeed! |
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Tbh, apart from the one week or so where spore got ganged up on, we didn't really have much incs, so if anyone actually hit us together then it was pretty poorly organized :/
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Sounds like there are still a few grudges left from last round.
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you do realise that CT did coordinated hits on Ultores first though
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lol who would they co-ordinate with?
everyone was either on your block, or gal raiding :p |
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coordinated doesn't necessarily mean they worked with someone. however in this case newdawn.
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shocking i know. |
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so ct co-ordinated a hit on ult with just ct?
and you hit them back with 5 other alliances? |
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Esper quite clearly said 'people can coordinated on their own, BUT IN THIS CASE, NEWDAWN' He was just clarifying to people who cannot read like Bitcher (i appreciate that English isnt your first language) that you can indeed coordinate on your own. Coordination is basically organisation. Every night you guys coordinate an attack on whichever galaxies you attack. The BC has 60 people to provide attack oppurtunities for, because he picks the range of targets and which time they will happen he is coordinating the alliance to do something as a whole at a certain instance. Working with is a completely different thing. If signifies that one entity is actively in dialogue with another one to work together to achieve a goal. Spore HC's have you gathered the information i requested yet btw? We really need to know about these 'def drains'. Were they 1-2 ticks ahead of Ultores attacks or were they 3-5 ticks ahead and soaking all the way down to eta 2-1 then pulling? Why are you so reluctant to share this information? Is it because if you were going to ask 2 alliances to defdrain it wouldnt be 2 that are notorious for crashing? |
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Best Korea always gets no votes of confidence - hope he wins this around - about time someone with pure game and no politics wins
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We're debating semantics here. The use of coordinating an attack is clearly being used to mean working with another alliance to organise an attack on the same target. As I understand it Spore are claiming that certain alliance launched a few ticks before Ultores to drain their defence. If they want to provide data, well that's up to them.
Complaining about incoming is a bit like Ultores getting mad because someone dared to stop them winning, but I'm just a facilitator, so carry on! |
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Then your insight is a bit flawed, is it not? Because you're evaluating your opinions based on speculation/rumours and not from direct experience.
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Excuse the new chap but how come Factory don't play in the normal round? Or do they only like to play during havoc when half the universe has stopped playing?
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