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Kaiba 1 Mar 2018 21:46

Rd 76 Stats
 
76 Stats

Krypton 2 Mar 2018 12:21

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
Are these final now with all changes applied?

Mzyxptlk 2 Mar 2018 14:18

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
Way too defensive. Ter De, Xan De, Zik Fr and Etd Fr only need three ships for full coverage. Ter Bs, Xan Fi, Zik Co and Etd Cr only need four. Both Cat fleets need five, for some reason, and their effs are in the shitter as well.

Makhil 2 Mar 2018 16:34

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You must hate cath to be treating them so badly. Only t2 emp vs DE...

Adapt 3 Mar 2018 20:31

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We love you kaiba

Mzyxptlk 7 Mar 2018 16:17

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So now what?

Jintao 7 Mar 2018 17:58

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We run em and hope for the best?

DarkHeart 8 Mar 2018 02:01

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
These stats will lead to a ridiculously boring round

I always knew Kaiba would be the death of PA

BloodyButcher 8 Mar 2018 06:03

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When will cath emp eff be finished?

Shhhhhhh 8 Mar 2018 09:03

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Maybe lower the dmg of Apparition by a lot?
They are far too strong vs De now. If they had 300-400 dmg eff you would still see xan def accounts with them. At 500 they kill almost 100% in value and no way to counter them.

[DDK]gm 8 Mar 2018 12:36

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defence fort round... congrats ult

BloodyButcher 8 Mar 2018 19:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm (Post 3261538)
defence fort round... congrats ult

We have all signed EOR naps with them, you should too!
Lets atleast wait for effs and targetting to be fixed, before shutting down all other options than forts.
Find it wierd theyve so far from being completed though

Shhhhhhh 8 Mar 2018 20:21

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Let's say it's all finished now.
What should still be changed?
Not sure these general comments are helping.

Krypton 8 Mar 2018 22:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shhhhhhh (Post 3261536)
Maybe lower the dmg of Apparition by a lot?
They are far too strong vs De now. If they had 300-400 dmg eff you would still see xan def accounts with them. At 500 they kill almost 100% in value and no way to counter them.

I'm inclined to agree with this.

Also, I agree with the Cath emp efficiency being far too low - especially when considering they have to build 4 ships to cover all classes when building an attack fleet.

BloodyButcher 9 Mar 2018 06:46

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1. EMP effs need to be adjusted

2. Forcing allies to go for xan defence planets regardless of ship strategy will be unhealty for how the stats play out. The apparition simply is way too good, every alliance can stop another DE tag 100% by having a few xan defence planet.

3. Wether wygern or dragon target DE as T2 dosnt matter much, if you want to nerph ter switching them around would do a lot.

4. Make locust "normal" or swap the T1/T2 with the widow. Looking at it at first glance i dont understand why anyone would build this ship. Also if you want CO as a more favourable ship strat option you need defensive synergy, wich you would improve with swapping targetting on locust.

5. Roach/Broker the same ship basicly, swapping T1 and T2 on roach would make cat/etd teamups better, and it would give cath a T1 DE wich you need against every xan roiding class in most sets.

6. Another xan DE ship could make cath and partly ETD more viable. Having a 3rd xan that fires at T1 CR and removing T2 on spectre would force you to spread the value more.

Kaiba 9 Mar 2018 07:38

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
Stats are final and have been handed over to Jintao/Appoco for implementation.

Mzyxptlk 9 Mar 2018 08:42

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Locust changed from normal anti-Co to EMP anti-Fi. Widow gained T2 Bs. Some shuffling of Bs ERes and anti-Bs EMP guns and cost.

Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Shhhhhhh 9 Mar 2018 08:47

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
Do any ships have different eta than what you expect from their class?

Mzyxptlk 9 Mar 2018 08:50

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
Last round, they were listed on the stats page. Since this round they aren't, I assume all the ETAs are class-based again.

On a sidenote, changing the formatting of the stats page back again is incredibly annoying.

Kaiba 9 Mar 2018 08:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shhhhhhh (Post 3261550)
Do any ships have different eta than what you expect from their class?

The speedgame stats page doesnt support etas but they have been added.

I guess you will be able to view them properly once uploaded ingame.

Mzyxptlk 9 Mar 2018 10:24

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
Appoco, it would be nice if we could see those before they are made final-final.

Kaiba 9 Mar 2018 10:31

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk (Post 3261553)
Appoco, it would be nice if we could see those before they are made final-final.

The etas?

Mzyxptlk 9 Mar 2018 10:31

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
Yes. Whether a ship can make ally defense ETA or not is rather important.

Kaiba 9 Mar 2018 10:33

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
original stats

The stats arent current as i made the last few changes solely on speedgame but the etas are accurate if that helps you.

For the record i did ask to be moved to beta server so you could all see them but Jintao didnt want to kick paisley off as his stats are in progress

Mzyxptlk 9 Mar 2018 16:36

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Oh, did Paisley put them there! I did wonder where they ended up.

Kaiba 9 Mar 2018 18:17

Re: Rd 76 Stats
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk (Post 3261562)
Oh, did Paisley put them there! I did wonder where they ended up.

Yes they were already up there when i submitted my first draft


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