R19: The hall of shame
 

As promised here is a list of ppl who left / jumped during round from our side due to having interests with other alliances (pnap) or failure to adapt to alliance/teamplay. Kind request to other HC not to accept those losers next round(s) please and would like to see your lists also:

Rasputin (pnap)
darts (pnap)
raketman
isnogood
YuC
Draki
FeniX
dedin
Moe
Raz (stupidity)
chronox (major stupidity)

Kind regards,

- Shoshuro

EDIT: Fixed the wording / edited list.

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crusie, Heartless, and MobRulz, in a way. I'm sure there are plenty I have forgotten.

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Everyone should refuse this person admittance into their alliance..

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Didnt he come 101st aswell :)

And qebab, Heartless never really joined your alliance so he can't truly be accused of shipjumping.

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Didn't see that one coming tbh :o

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He was among those we wanted with us in the merge, but he still held a lot of hostility to Omen, and didn't want to (That's why I added "in a way").

Also "In a way". But he certainly gave me the impression that he was a member.

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shoshuro, you forgot the MAIN quitter in Omen this round: Keizarie. MAking that list without him on it makes no sence

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Also, Xalibur left when we merged with Angels, as he didnt like them afaik or whatever. He never left Omen, which he joined to play the round inn.

I would accept him again :/ even though he dissapointed me

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FeNiX and dedin were both kicked by MobRulz. The rest of gosu left after this (which is understandable given the circumstances, but no less shipjumping).

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not all of gosu

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You lost some members.. buhu :crymeariver:

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gôsu did lose 1 member this round

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oh I didn't aim that on your post, Atul, but on Shoshuro's post.

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People normally tend to leave unsatisfactory alliances. Have you ever considered that it might have been your own fault?

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That's what most HCs don't consider, so instead they add them to kill-list and roid them dry, bad-mouth them etc.

It's easier to blame those who leave than yourself.

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ah but what bout the one's that take pnap's ?

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That they weren't winning? Sure, probably partly their fault for accepting second-rate members/officers/HCs into their alliance in the first place. However this thread isn't about who is to blame for what happened. It's about what people did.


PS As regards the merger I'd consider anyone to did go through with the merger to have shipjumped more so than anyone who refused to do so. Those people signed up to play for a certain group/tag/embassy of the good lord jesus christ and the fact they didn't want to play for another one makes it almost the inverse of shipjumping.

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darts and Draki were Nihilum spies!!

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Try type my nick correct next time will you matey.

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pfffrt
ive been asking on hitting Exi whole round never happend then u guys kicked out members for not being good enough

so what

i dont like that and sure ass hell not if then an merge happens

sorry but if u want me in that list fine with me

ill do without ally then np

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pfffrt you are so funny darts :salute:

Click

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(darts|afk) well i applyed for them next round thats why the pnap if i drop it i wont get in


They really fooled you :crymeariver:

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I'm really not sure whether people like darts are so dumb that they don't understand why they're nubs or if they're just selfish.

Good log. Gave me a good laugh on an otherwise **** night.

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yeah i left so i wanted in also but all the things posted be4 made me leave at first place

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and btw so what if im nub like u kick some mayor ass

i like this gamne i like fights but all those shit merge and politics i h8 it it ruins the game

im not elite like some so what at least i have fun and the people that do know me know what they have when they get me in, u cant blame me of not defending or participating in annything can u

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U left because u wanted to join eXi next round, and didnt want to cancel the pnap. which is just BS. I know eXi, they take in people which put up a good fight. people they know they can count on.

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two more...

Scoobs - Left ROCK last friday of the round to join ToF, reason "it is for the best for me and rock for me to leave"

x2 - Left ROCK about tick 6-700 maybe for vision, reason "im not going to be active anymore" (or similar) the facts - never once defended or attacked with rock, yet after leaving joinned vision and ended the round on about 5mil score... hmmm.

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before round starts, you look around. pick an alliance which you think would best fit your requirements. you join them, and you STAY there. through thick and thin. because you said you would when round started.
now
when round ends, all players are free to reconsider their choice. change alliances. or quit the game. leave honorably. but this is not an option mid-round when 60 other people are counting on you.

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the 60 members u guys kicked 2 merge u mean or?

imo if an alliance is doing crap keep your head up dont suddenly kick people 2 merge 2 alliances 2 gether and say we kept the strong ones.

imo thats even worse then jumping ships like u guys like 2 call it

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heh. yeah. started 60. and how many were left? how many were still fighting?
trust me, i know, i did the calling! almost nobody ever bothered to get online in the morning to send def. why keep them around? remember they were the first ones to let the ally down, not the other way around. same with jumpers.

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I would kick a member like that before he'd even think about leaving.

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i was fighting so was me m8 ingal he got kicked cos he didnt def he also didnt ask for def u just kicked people without asking

that imo aint verry sporty either is it

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Why would you worry about being "sporty" when you kick selfish cvnts?

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I remember a round when I didnt defend or attack for a period of time.

I was with a top alliance at the time.

But you know what, I actually spoke to HC, explained my reasons and the benefit to both myself and the alliance and it was excepted (stealing zhils fleet was a bonus).

If you was a decent alliance member this wouldnt be an issue, you would of sorted it with your alliance and done what was best for em, wouldnt you?

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So voodoo you're saying that an alliance is allowed to kick a member if he ain't exactly like they thought he would be when they recruited him, but a member ain't allowed to leave the alliance when he finds out that the alliance ain't exactly like he thought they would be when he applied to them?

It's kinda lame to say that this game is meant to be fun but when it comes to recruiting some people become all lawyer-ish and act like the member signed a contract with his own blood.

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PLEASE tell me you are not advocating for ship-jumpers? and are just replying for the sake of the argument!
only reason alliances dont perform as well as expected is because of crap members that either lie when joining, or just lack the warrior spirit to keep fighting when the shit hits the fan!!
so yes, im saying that alliances are what members/hc's make them.
and this game lost most of the "fun" in it few years back when it became a requirement you spend 10-15 hours/day on it to do well.

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if anything, people who left angels out of free choice should be given accolades for having some vague form of sense

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You're getting silly with these names, as you know any one of them would get back in to your own group at any given time. You are making yourself a bit pathetic posting them on a thread where you encourage other alliances not to accept them, when you know what your agenda regarding one or more of them would most definately be.

I'll buy you a clue next time I get on IRC Shosh.

And imagine spending hours and hours a day in order to help other people do well in it. In all it's ingratefulness, a round or two should do it for even the dumbest people.

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how much can a person whine? now theres a contest ud surely win keiz!

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Dear yes, what's the reward? Link to the sign up of another fun round of planetarion?

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Kinda dissapointing hear that he left the allie, whos HC he was for some time. Bad Bad Keizari.

He acted after his personal feelings. If he sticked with you till that merge, and left during the merge, then can't blame him for staying loyal to his personal opinion. Can't blame anyone for having a personal opinion.

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Let's see, as the only conversation you, my charming HC, had with me was about how I needed to keep my value cause it was sooooo important for me to finish t10, I'd prefer you keep your public comments about me to a minimum. If you think I left because of a pnap, I'd be happy to show you my planet history from before and after I left.

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I am not advocating for ship-jumping. I am just trying to tell you that kicking members so 2 alliances could merge is just as bad.

And yes, maybe they were lying when they joined. But on the other hand you can't blame someone to change his opinion when he finds out something ain't exactly like he excepted it to be. And notice how this last sentence is written in a neutral form, it can be used from the POV of an HC who kicks a member or of a member who "kicks" his HC (by leaving the alliance).

As I said, I am NOT advocating FOR ship-jumpers, but I am also not AGAINST them. Actually I couldn't care less about them. :D

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Do we now make a list of HCs who have kicked members so that two alliances could merge and make a plea for nobody to consider joining these alliances next round? What's that, Vision, Omen? Was there anyone else?

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Let's see
exi minus 20 shipjumpers = #1 when round ends?
I very much doubt that

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A total alliance-free round. Sounds neat to me :D

Na just kidding. The whole reason why I post here in an "anti" way is because this thread got started by an HC of an alliance that kicked members to merge amd the people that replied are mostly from that alliance aswell.

Maybe the HCs of Omen and Angels should not only be mad at the "ship-jumpers" but also at themselves. They had how many members before the merger? Around 120? 140? After the merger they had 60. So they kicked around 60-80 members that were inactive or "useless" as voodoo stated? Your recruiters got fooled and lied at 60-80 fukcing times? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me 80 fukcing times........no comment". ;)

rain minus his multi-accounts = Top100 when round ends?
I very much doubt that.

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I am NOT talking about ship-jumpers that leave their alliance because they ain't winning. I am talking about "ship-jumpers" that leave their alliance because they hardly get defence or ain't happy with decisions that the HCs made or ain't happy how one member acts or realized that the alliance is in no way as they expected it to be.

[edit]Damnit Kila where did your post go? :([/edit]

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If you are talking about darts shouldn't he have mentioned all his concerns/problems/requests in advance rather than the day he left?

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Maybe he should have? Maybe he did and no one was listening to him? I don't care as I am not specifically talking about his case.

I am talking about how YOU started a thread about people that left your alliance for various reasons, how you openly blacklisted them while on the other hand your alliance kicked 30-40 members from your tag to merge. You can't tell me that those 30-40 members were all inactive. It's sanctimoniously to say "They are evil! Don't accept them!" but once you turn around you kick 30-40 members.