A question about the block...
 

From an outsiders point of veiw isnt this letting FAnG run away with the win whilst 6-7 of your alliances bash down on Ultores just allowing a new powerhouse alliance to take Ultores' place???

What exactly is that acheiving expect changing which alliance dominates PA??

Thought the idea was to level the playing field, not king make another alliance....

From how fat FaNG is already havent you let them run away with the round already... faster than Ult ever did....

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Another example of game management failing to preserve the player base .....

as this unabashed 24/7 bashing continues the player base gets smaller and smaller as this is no longer a game of skill but nothing short of mass bullying of smaller alliances and players at this rate its not long till this game ceases to really be a functional game of skill and strategy


indeed leveling the playing field is warranted

now if the appropriate parties get s their head out of dark damp places maybe they might see that this game is in decline no matter how much wishful thinking and inefficient changes they provide
it is time for bold changes and new thinking instead of lame and repeated excuses

A REAL HONEST RESPONSE WOULD BE APPRECIATED, NOT SOME RECYCLED CRAP .


WIZARD

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3 million score is nothing.


That said! Sooner or later, someone is going to have to take on fANG.

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Beside the fact that your post has too much factual errors (6-7 allies really?), i will say this for TGV: We will continue to hit with the block for as long as we feel Ultores is the main contender for the round. I can not tell you when that will be tho. But to me it seems highly unlikely that it will be within 300 ticks from now. The ceasefire over Easter has showed me Ultores is far from dead.

Will this mean FAnG will win the round? That is just way too soon to tell. Blocks have their own issues to deal with and often blocks fail to deal with their issues quite soon after their main target runs out of roids. Best example of that has been r42 (the last round a block succeeded in keeping the #1 contender for the round down).

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3 mill score yes... 15k roid lead at tick 380 and no visible competitors... run away win!

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I have a slight feeling you do not entirely understand what bashing means in this game. But, if anything, i'd say that having the block against Ultores in place prevents bashing.

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xVx at the same point last round had a 20k roidlead. It only took a few days of gangbanging to get that lead out of the way. And xVx was allied to the winners even!

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Roids mean even less than score does. Come on, you know better than this.

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theyre all xand anyway, cant even mine those roids

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Come on, are you really comparing xVx with FAnG?

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I think when you look at the univers overview you get a understanding how close it is atm, its anyones game.
Ultores were taken of the target list for a night or two, and they by far outroided everyone else those days.
Im sure the 6-7 man block will do what they think is in there interest, and so far it has been keeping ultores at bay.

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xVx did have a strong setup last round, and a big allied partner.
So i think he hit the head of the nail.

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it wasn't so much an alliance it was more of a def pool for ultores who were getting heavy incs for 3 weeks at end of round. This round without that def pool to assist, and the incs coming at such an early time, ultores haven't had the same chance of building value, FAnG who have all the roids and therefor will build value quicker than others will be almost impossible for ultores to roid alone, and as the CT and FAnG alliance is much the same as the xVx and ultores alliance over the past few rounds, FAnG will walk away #1 at the conclusion of this round. It's the same story as last round just with a different #1.

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xVx ftw o/ :D

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told u :D

neways, if anyone else wins this round apart from ultores, its just not a deserved one :) tyvm

why? It`s actually pretty simple..

- NONE of the other alliances up there would still be playing, if they received the banshing that ult has had since pt48; im 98% sure of it;

;)

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Whatever makes you feel better!

Thing is, if 80% of the best players in this game join the same alliance rather than competing with each other then there is no choice but blocking up against them. Sure you get a lot of incoming, but you know very well that if you didnt you'd just win by default.

Get over how awesome you are and face the fact that you do not dare to compete against the players in your current tag.

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Why would people who like to play with eachother stop doing that to please others?

As for there beeing no choice but to block, of course there is, you just always take the easy way out and mass block :cool:

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Why would people stop bashing Ultores for pleasing Ultores? :S
The round is far from over, and we will see later in the round if the "block" put enough preasure at Ultores.
ATM the win is for everyone who wants it.

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Where did i say anything about that?

Also, if Ult doesn't win then fang wins and vica versa.

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eksero is correct, there are two alliances going for #1 and 8 alliances taking up space in the top 10

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First of all, if you like to play with each other it should be equally fun playing against each other. I remember in r11 Elysium, the alliance I was in from start to finish, disbanded. The member base split between several alliances but the largest part went to either 1up or LCH. R11 and R12 are the most fun rounds of PA I ever played, I knew my allies and I knew my enemies. Battling players I respected from playing together in Elysium made everything much more enjoyable.

Secondly, I would believe you that Ult is a tight knit group of friends if the tag was perhaps 10-20 players large. However, with a tag of 67 and a bunch of players that joined just this round I just dont buy into it.

And finally, there is no other way than to "mass" block. Though with xvx practically on your side the numbers arent as skewed as you like to make them seem.

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Well then, why don't we just shuffle around every alliance and place people randomly on teams?

Thinking like that is the reason there's mass blocks in the first place, giving up before even trying..

Where did i say anything about numbers?

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CT and FAnG?

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You could try playing well yourselves.

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419 ppl online this game looks dead ;-)

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what a silly post u were once again able to put together :salute:

the only player im scared to play against from ultores tag, is wattee, and thats also only because i dont wanna make him cry.. other than that, ure a bit lost with this one it seems ;)

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In fairness to Ultores I would have hoped that they'd have it tough this round. If you've won three in a row it's hard to be surprised that a) most people hate you and b) almost everyone will be willing to gang up against you.

Nonetheless some of this shit is retarded. A close knit group can easily be 60-70 people large. I knew virtually everyone in r30 ascendancy pretty well and that group was 100 people. Knowing what to do with a successful alliance is hard either way. We ended up intentionally gutting our own alliance but I can see why people wouldn't want to do though. It's not exactly very nice to a lot of your own members who put in a lot of work into the alliance if you end up kicking them out and the alternative of just disbanding the whole alliance is a terrible idea for so many reasons that if you can't work them out on your own I'm amazed you managed to switch on a computer to read this in the first place.

All that said the idea that ultores have all the good players is just not true. There are plenty of people I recall as good planet managers in both FAnG and Apprime. There also seems to be much more of a scattering of good players around than there was, say, 10 rounds ago. Now, quite obviously, they're a better and more militarily cohesive unit than anyone else out there but you're never going to be able to compete on their level unless you forge yourself into something similar. This will not be done by use of a block of overwhelming size.

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.racism fang
Demographics for FAnG - 12 Cat Val(921.8k) Score(1188.9k) Size(733) XP(4451) | 13 Etd Val(1052.6k) Score(1288.8k) Size(823) XP(3936) | 2 Ter Val(932.8k) Score(1304.8k) Size(725) XP(6199) | 30 Xan Val(1117.4k) Score(1380.2k) Size(893) XP(4381) | 18 Zik Val(1127k) Score(1390k) Size(806) XP(4383)


If only they were, def would have been so much easier :(

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CT = FAnG2

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what are you complaining about, xVx was Ultores2 last round and i didn't hear you back then? If anything, i give CT and FAnG a better chance to go to war at some point in the round than Ult & xVx...

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I wasn't complaining i was just pointing out that ct and fang are one and the same this round

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Actually, Ultores initiated a load of roids as well as roiding on those days they were left alone.

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Makes sense. If you have no roids, initing is smart.

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I like ya Influence but please don't post shit like this, just makes you as bad as most of the others here. There is absolutely no way you can say Ultores are still #1 contender over FANG, unless you rate FANG as the same level as F-crew or ND. Everyone knows FANG is a much more powerful ally than all except for Ult, so you saying this is just some bullshit excuse of the "block" for why they wish to continue their 'bash 1 ally all round and roid race each other' idea.
I gotta say Fang must love having all of you on the end of their cock

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Your selling Ultores off to cheaply, you know that if they were not targetted for a couple of days they would soon in the roidlead with their roiding skillz.
The round is still young, i will not write off Ultores yet.

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well i guess u can do nothing about it..

i mean, we just have to go with the flow and survive somehow to see another round.. Im not sure, if the next one (after ending 3-5th) would be easier in terms of incomings or not (since the logic is, that every time ult plays, u have to gang on em from pt24 :D), but this round it seems theres not much to do nemore

there is no way of stopping fang nemore, unless they lose some members or CT turns against them with ultores+others.. both of these cases i cant see happening (well they might lose members ofc :D )

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OR.. when block stops hittin ultores ofc, and lets us go 1 on 1 ? :)

would be actually nice for a change :D:D:D

comments pls

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there should be a decent enough handicap for em at this point :D

ps: it might not be as fun idea nemore after pt700 :P

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there is no 1 vs 1 in pa jo

ult has xvx on their side since their first round they played

fang this round has ct/nd

also neroon.... in pa there have been many dominating alliances who got hit from when protection ended... some even still won the round

so go with the flow!

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My advice to Ultores at this point is simply to keep going and keep the gap to the top as small as possible.

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I dont think anyone will write Ultores off, i would like to think that the block will disband when there is a faint hope of Ultores catching FaNG. That would be nice to see how good Ultores actually is, wether it can overturn a big gap, and to see where FaNG is as an alliance, wether they are good enough to hang on or will crumble under the pressure of a resurgant Ultores.

Although Ultores people on here will short sell Ultores in the hope the block lets up i think the FaNG members, especially B-Butcher, really have no faith their alliances ability to win the round. FaNG is full of quality players too, its like you guys dont beleive in yourselves.

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Ofc i have in my own alliance, but xVx/Ultores are still bigger than FAnG both in roids and score.

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They're just doing like any 1st spot , roidlead ally should do, laying low, avoiding attention, the less they post here about how good they are, the less the focus on them (not that forums is that much of newsbreaker anymore)

Many allies done so before, ult, app,, etc.

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Really? 2 other top10 alliances combined are bigger than the #1 alliance? HOW DID ANYONE ELSE NOT SEE THIS :cool:

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omg ur so smart and witty!

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you were the ony who said it :(

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oh shit! HR and App combined are bigger than CT, surely 1 of them will take 2nd from CT :s

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xVx/Ultores are not dead yet, they are still bigger than the #1 allie, and if the "CT/FAnG BLOCK" stop attacking Ultores and their loyal allie xVx, it would just be a matter of days before they are looking in good value for another round win.

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Surely the idea should be to disband when it seems like it's roughly 50/50 whether or not ultores would catch FAnG? So that you'd have a situation whereby ultores would really go for it still as opposed to the situation you might run into where they go "why would we bother breaking our balls for a 10-20% chance at overtaking an alliance who got handed a completely irrelevant round win by most of the rest of the active alliances playing the game?"

Incidentally based on what the current delta-vs look like I'd guess the 50/50 point is approximately a week from now. At that point assuming ultores are pretty decent and FAnG aren't complete retards it'd be pretty evenly matched. FAnG would have roughly 2.5 times more roids and 1.4/1.5 times more value. If you can't win that sort of a fight you don't deserve to win the round.

Obviously if xVx are actually with ultores it wouldn't be 1 on 1 and presumably ND or CT could stay in the fight to keep things even. (I'm assuming ND and CT are still pretty rubbish as on pure scores/roids this wouldn't be even.)

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As long as Ult doesn't win...its a good round ;)