Ascendancy v Apprime
 

Has it started yet?

Will it start?

Who is more organised?

Who looks stronger?

With this round shaping it to a closely contested alliance by the top 2 named above, I wonder what peoples opinions are on who they will think will come out on top.

Dont get me wrong, I m not for one moment ruling out p3ng/VsN/Evo etc but it seems app and asc are the strongest at the current time and only going to get stronger once late signups come into play.

Thoughts please

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We gal raided on an app heavy gal 2day, they gal raided on an asc heavy gal 2day.

See above; we r on the slippery slope towards it at least.

Probably Apprime.

Probably Apprime.

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Being the only person here not talking bullshit for the last 3-4-5 rounds with regards to outcomes, i will say this: I am shitting myself silly about Asc. If app dont win this battle hugely, it'll all be over mid round. If App do win this battle somehow, then itll be 50-50 going into this last half, even still, with my money, without help against Asc, they will win clearly.

I didnt play round 28, but i heard Asc floored us all, and i heard it was brutal. As someone whos been around somewhat, and really has no friends to lose: Grab your balls boys, and kiss them goodbye. Ze Russians are coming.

Now you can all sit there, and think im talking absolute bullshit, or u can look at my track record for calling it as it is, regardless of my ally, in which case ill say to you: please, if we dont keep these Xan fortress gals down now, we will be rolled like there is no tomorrow, today. Believe it or not. Your call.

Forget all this bullshit about late round, cos really, unless someone stops Asc now, its all over. Really.

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U overstate the case, to beat apprime, or for them to beat ascendancy, will be a long hard slog - we all kno an ally holding value can lose roids and hold on to top for a surprising length of time, if it really comes down to just asc vs app without a big block one way or the other then no-one else need worry because the war will quite probably last most of the round round without a clear winner. Which is ofc why both sides have been kinda cautious about declaring it started.

Tho the universe should be worried that after a week or 2 of that asc and app decide a nap is the way to go like last round.

Ascendancy had no serious opposition in r28 so ofc it was brutal, it was hegemony.

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Look londo, i dont know u as well as Asc, but i know u well enough to cut the shit. With Xan fleets, versus ETD emp fleets, there will be no hard slog. There will be absolute ****ing slaughter.

In this thread, and others, talk of Asc vs App, has gone from lets block App, cos they are evil, to lets let it be 1v1 solo......

Ladies and Gentlemen, Asc will never ever ask for a 1vs1 battle, unless they know they will win clearly. Youve seen this from previous politics, youve seen this first hand. Asc are calling for all alliances to sit out, because they know if people do, they will win.

People, in all honesty: Emp planets cannot, and will not, ever be able to roid Xan fortress galaxies, on even a slightly competitive scale.

Apprime have done well up till now because most of them went Emp. We all know emp dominate the early round play, then fall away substantially, when facing balanced fleets. Im telling you this now: App played their trump card early. Now they are at the mercy of Asc.

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corrected

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[11:49] -Munin- Demographics for app: 10 Cat Val(538k) Score(845k) Size(543) XP(5114) | 20 Etd Val(587k) Score(861k) Size(612) XP(4568) | 3 Ter Val(491k) Score(741k) Size(593) XP(4169) | 25 Xan Val(625k) Score(872k) Size(744) XP(4115) | 8 Zik Val(574k) Score(827k) Size(557) XP(4209)
they a tad heavy on emp I admit, it will harm them defensively, but offense is at least if not more important; particularly f the numbers are even, the xan etd combo is very dangerous to xans

Only an idiot asks to fight a fair fight if they can be on the right side of an uneven one; I was not calling for others to sit out I warned them an asc/app nap would be the likely consequence if they did, if that is not a summons to arms through fear then I dunno what is.

there are excellent teams dude.

I'll grant U that is the normal course of things, but its not gonna mean its gonna be the walkover u imply.

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Don't be so melodramatic. Only one thing could roll you like there is no tomorrow.

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fact #1: Apprime has more xan planets than any other race.
fact #2: Most of those xans are also in "fortress gals" with the added bonus that the big apprime gals actually have fence aswell, the asc ones does not.
fact #3: You went emp, slap yourself for not thinking long term.
fact #4: Don't talk about r28 if you don't know what happend.
fact #5: Xan gals attacked properly are not harder to roid than any other gal.

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I don't think we've asked for anything much apart from people to stop using flawed reasoning when theorising about planetarion.

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Somehow I don't feel it will last, it's a mere skirmish to test the response of the opponent.
And as the rest of the alliances will be happy to just wait and watch, I don't see any further escalation.
My money is on Asc anyway. Pure Xans are now unstoppable.

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Stop acting like it's the end of the world. I think Asc caught Apprime with their pants down today, tomorrow will be even more interesting. And tbh, there are more alliances playing PA than just Apprime and Ascendancy, so feel free to use your fleets to make the war as balanced as possible.

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Far too early to say that: Ascendancy just launched before Apprime, who have not landed yet, it should even up a bit.

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Apprime will win

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I think everyone except junglemuffin has realised that by now.

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jungle is not able to look at it from an unbiased point of view :-) but hey, swings and roundabouts :-)

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Who wins is not really important, although it should be on every other alliances interest to keep the war going as long as possible, even if ti means helping Asc one time and App the other. Oh boy, i am giddy with excitement :D (Kinda makes me regret the fact that this round i am not on an alliance competing for the round win)

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my excell sheet has a bigger number then your excell sheet

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Apprime have lost roids and Ascendancy have gained roids today. You all need to block against Ascendancy now guys before it's too late!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111ee :salute:

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In my self-appointed role as Ascendancy Jesus I would like to state our official position on this whole scenario. Ascendancy have not now, nor will we ever, condone the use of dimethyltryptamine in such quantities.

Thank you.

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I must correct you here JBG. Clearly you meant God, not Jesus :)

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I always thought JBG was Jesus and Jester was God...might be my mistake though...

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Only Jesus disappears on Friday and rises from the dead after the weekend's over yo.

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I wanted to quote this little bit from Jungles rant becuase apparently, from the wisdom of certain people which i found so funny, apparently us (p3nguins) and asc are napped and attacking togther? Well from what my own members keep telling me via statements such as this:


<+Hiall> mPulse, they've been attacking togther for like a week.. so i assume there napped
<+kjelle> asc and p3ng have nappen?
<+Hiall> dunno if its official
<+Hiall> but they've attacked 2gether
<+kjelle> ok.

So JBG maybe you can fill me in, as i didnt know we were apparently napped and attacking together for the past week was it? Im so glad Hiall is there to fill me and my members in on what we are apparently doing. Although, last nite we roided a gal with 5 vsn in it, and i beleive 1 ec. Pretty certain the previous nite too we did a couple of random gal roiding... so unless of course asc targetted the same vsn gal we did last nite (which they didnt according to the j scans i did this morning) im curious how we are 'attacking togther'? Maybe Hiall could fill me in :p

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To the best of my knowledge we are neither allied nor NAPed with p3nguins, nor have we co-operated on any attacks at any time during the round. I imagine someone added two and two together and came up with eight hundred and thirty seven.

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you think that certain someone can count that high? :P

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Aren't you supposed to be a Penguins HC? Even their founder I think? Is this really how you deal with your members?

No wonder alliances struggle with trust issues when this is how they deal with their members.

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So Penguins are picking on VisioN!?

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Very astute to the larger issues you are CBA! P3n has been ptargetting vision to set themselves up nicely after the asc v app conflict drags them both down.

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This post doesnt even make sense...

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Yes, Indeed this is true, although p3ng have a lot of leakers and intel sharers, shall we say, there firepower is actually quite good and they manage to pull off decent coverage on there targets. I just hope they know what they're getting themelves into :)

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Could be because the gal in question is so fckin fat?

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Well, that was a long war between Ascendancy and Apprime. You guys must be exhausted :)

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Well, that was a long merge between Destiny and Subh. You guys must be exhausted :)

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Nah, i have been sleeping like a baby ;)
Props for the totally unrelated answer though.

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the big question is, how many million ahead will apprime get before somebody grows a pair :P

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I guess forming a block has to be done by anyone but Ascendancy, since we´re clearly abusing everyone for our goals if we try to prevent stagnation by foresight.

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Am I missing something? have Asc and Apprime NAPed or something?

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Probably not. Coverage is generally down to alliance activity

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Have you probably missed signup and lack a planet?

(I don´t think we´re napped, unless everyone else has been uber secretive and didn´t tell poor little me.)

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Kila probably refers to the fact that after that one night where they targeted each other, both alliances seem to have gone back to gal roiding. Perhaps they think it's too early to engage in war?

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If you think coincidental gal raids will draw either party into war before they feel ready, its not going to happen.

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Sooner or later Asc will have to engage in war against App (if you want to win ofc). The question is whether it should be sooner rather than later. If there is one thing we can not dispute about Apprime, is that they are better than anyone else at roiding, so the longer they are allowed to keep doing galraids, the better for them.
On an unrelated note, what happened to Vision?

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Wrong only an idiot and a chicken starts uneven battle, if u got chance to fight it out for real.

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Asc have outroided Apprime today, and should start to roid better than Apprime from now-ish as they have no EMP planets.

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If you refer to the avg roid gain, yes. If you refer to the net roid growth, not.

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We saw black and white.

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I wouldnt call one person that was in ur gal and gave you the landing tick and waves etc loads of leakers, although of course i admit we have spies. As everyone does. Still though, lets face it the only reason why we targetted your gal, was due to vsn TAing one of our gals the previous nite (i also had yourself pming me asking me why we as an alliance were loosing roids when you knew full well why)

But for the other comments about p3nguins taing vsn thats laughable. We have hit 3 vsn gals all round, 2 of them were random hits no TAing involved what so ever. Last nite was more a revenge hit i admit from vsns retal on us but again we didnt TA. By the way CBA how come even though you managed to know the land tick and what was more or less coming only yourself managed to get 10 waves of defence for just 3 waves of incoming? :p

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Firstly, I had 4 waves of incomming. Secondly, I didnt have 10 waves of defence you idiot :(

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What part of it doesn't make sense?