R71: Incoming stats
The following is based on data about fleet launches provided by the PA team.
There is a difference in the data displayed below and the data on history page, in the stats below:
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This has also been posted on pastebin: https://pastebin.com/raw/X9XVCWRC Hostile fleets, full round: Day 0 - 49: 1 - 1153: 1153 ticks Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| Alliance | #1 | #2 | #3 | #4 | #5 | #6 | #7 | #8 | #9 | #10 || Total | Round | % | Code:
| To Alliance | From #1 | From #2 || Total | Round | % | Code:
| Day | From | To | # || Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| Hour | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| Hour | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| Order | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | The numbers are divided in 4 groups based on the final alliance rank.
The numbers themselves are percentages of how many attack fleets were send in relation to the total number of attack fleets send by that alliance. Code:
| || Ultores || p3nguins || KittenZ || NewDawn || Conspiracy | |
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This has also been posted on pastebin: https://pastebin.com/raw/ADzicu7s
Friendly fleets: Day 0 - 49: 1 - 1153: 1153 ticks Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
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| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| Order | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | Code:
| To \ From | Ult | p3n | Kit | ND | CT | FAn | App | RB | VGN | Fac | NorseM | HR | Ast | Other | None || Total | |
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Letting Ult go 15 days without incs is comical.
Well played CT/ND/P3ng/HR/VGN/FAnG/KittenZ/Faceless for your tragical and destructive politics department. |
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Alliance gets as many incs as the #2 and #4 combined. First thought: man, I better whine about how few incs they got!
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Add in that Butcher could have hit Ult but instead chose to hit the people hitting ult, which was one of reasons we stopped hitting ult.
Maybe if Kittenz/fang/rainbows didn't magically start launching on pen/ct/nd each time that pen/ct/nd hit ult, the round would have been different. |
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But no, that wasn't my point. From my perspective of being in CT this round, we got hardly any incoming. The only time we did was when we were hitting Ult. Even though our attack was shocking and our defence not much better, still none of kittenz/pen etc would hit us unless we were off hitting Ult. And if we are all saying that Ult is so much better than us (they are) how can we be expected to fight Ult when ult's puppies are hitting us too. I don't mind losing (well I do but that is another story) and Ult were clearly so much better than anyone else, but what I do mind is people like butcher, who claim it was down to nd/ct/pen that Ult won. That simply isn't true. Ult won because they had enough puppies willing to support them and when you look at alliance sizes, it was about = on both sides, with Ult having superior activity and dedication. |
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You have an obsession with all your ult topics. Everything is around ult, ult puppies, ult napping, attacking ult etc. A little bit spooky
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The ally that is no.1 will always be the focus of the game, whether its a focus on avoiding it or fighting it.
Why shouldnt it be? |
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So the fact I wasn't hitting peng or CT but you took it on yourself to hit us just before hitting ult, then you moan that when your hitting ult I hit you back maybe act differently before you make your moves. Nd did the smart thing organised nap with me why didn't CT or penguin think about that before they engaged on ult, I would have accepted atleast 1 of your naps can't gaurentee I would have agreed to both 1 ally was alot more nasty to Kittenz then the other. Just think about it next time sadly politics is an integral part of game so if you choose to attack someone don't expect not to be hit back just cause your hitting ult.
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ct hit ult very early on
kittenz responded by hitting ct then we stopped hitting ult and hgave you a bit of a spanking, then you decided that hitting us wasn't wise and waited until we were hitting ult again puppies |
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Of course there has been cheating, even a Ult HC got deleted for cheating.
And of course there has been farming, how do you think EM got his roids before tick 200 (which was when I spotted he got at least 4 escorts on every attack, with all pulling at ETA 4) |
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As for Peng not defending, didn't they finish 2nd? Which was above all the other alliances that did defend, except Ult?
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Cheating is sad. That should be banned... Maybe pingu could have won if they defended properly? Could be a good idea for pingu and ct to merge their cores and create a new contender.
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If you are taking it that way the only other alliance that did def apart from Ult was faceless. Someone lend us some DCs and we will compete! :D |
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Chatham? Have we had this discussion before?
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yes we have, we were in the same gal a few rounds back and had it then... though a few rounds back might now mean 10 rounds or so, I lose track very quickly.
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see I don't even remember being in your gal
swear they all merge into one :/ |
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This is complete and utter trash. CT & Kitten kept hitting each other's galaxies. Unfortunately it was hard to avoid hitting both but especially Kittenz simply because Kitten had so many forts. I was personally in the anti ult block channel at the time before T900 all on ult fight. I kept asking Gm, don't hit kittenz, speak kittenz, don't hit kittenz. It was 100% obvious to everyone that KIttenz would hit back when Ult were being hit. Right??? Instead CT hit Kittenz while KIttenz were fight App/Norse etc with FL. Infact the nice thing of these wars for KIttenz was that App/Norse hit FL and Kittenz roided App/Norse This round saw terrible politics from a few ppl, in particular, Gm/Souls/Advantix & Bitcher |
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While they took naps with FL/Norse/KittenZ, the other tags in the block had to take their incommings. You also claimed that ND had conviced KittenZ to hit BowS. GM can keep going on with "BowS abandoned the block, thats why EVERYONE had to NAP Ult", but its quite clear that we wouldnt have the resources to fight a 2-3 front war with KittenZ ptargetting BowS, Norse trying to FC our planets, and us sending attack fleets at Ult. |
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Vgn and HR were doing good politics. They kept themselves uninvolved and out of blockwars and played a solid round.
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When I heard Gm had done a deal with Ult & Ult were going to give App a good farming I thought, 'damnit, we can dine tonight'. Then around 30mins after I hear the deal was for like 350 ticks until pt900 securing Ult the win. I nearly fell off my rocking chair. I was in the Anti Ult channel genuinely trying to help the Anti Ult alliances. I was forced to NAP Ult due to fighting Norse/Apprime & Later Bows with a 30man tag. Apprime were easy. We built for that. Norse & Bows mad these FI waves uncoverable. If we had FR incommings from Ult at that time we would have had -30% nights. Not -35% like Advantix's Norsemen had from 1 tag incommings :banana::banana: - Also I would like to say I was even trying to FC astores while they came home from deffin Ult. Didn't see CT/ND/p3ng doing this. Although props to p3ng helping me FC Bows' After which they didn't attack with FRDE again hehehe. Funny as FL and CT same amount of incs all round. What put my nose out a bit is that Gm didn't do any relations after the Ult deal with Ult friends. Why not? Instead when CT finally got hit he lost the plot and exploded (verbally). Overall I thought the stats were impressive. Every attack class had it's pro's. I would like a re-run really with a slight buff to CO & DE. It was a good round anyhow. Far too much time spend doing PA though :salute: |
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Dorf the thing is. Yes your statement is right. However you have been making many points saying why allies shouldn't gang on top ally, i.e. Ult. If CT/ND/p3ng were not hitting VGN. VGN would have been farmed to shit by Ult. Same as HR. Same as every ally that isn't Ult or their pre round allies (asta) |
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CBA I exploded verbally because i was the only one sticking up for you when everyone else quit the channel you were in, you were constantly giving it the big man, being in kittenz channel, how you got them to stop hitting norse and hit CT instied as "CT could handle it". Yes CT could handle kittenz incs but not with fang in tow...
You played both sides trying to fence while giving your constant words of wisdom, leaks and spreading lies about block members. There was only a so long i could endure it! |
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Demort, some alliances you don't need to nap to be friends, unfortunately it seems that kittenz was not one of those alliances. Constant incs from you while we fought ultores, then greencat lies and hostility from us gal raiding... you turn to ptargeting us for ultores. CT should of put a lot more incs on kittenz before the last two days!
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I mean jesus, im still getting constant pm from butch3r whining about hitting fang that night! doing my feckin head in!!! the round is over, let it go!!!
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Oh I'd have loved to work with CT most the round we played nice without relations I agree but then things some how got twisted and next thing we was slogging at each other
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Good thinking sir. :) and yes we gave a few gal raids BACK at you earlier also. Nothing to do with Ult. |
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Thing is by late round all those alliances like HR/VGN been farmed by those block members while receiving near to no incoming from Ult. Ofcourse they wont have a reason to help the alliances that gave them the majority of their incoming. |
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Superpowers don't stop winning until they stop caring, and Ultores seems to have a uniquely long attention span. The only counter I can think of is a round-long agreement that every time you go above 300 average roids, you get 5 alliances on you. And then again the next round. |
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Simple fact is that ult is not a bunch of twats politically so by tick 800 people are still willing to work with them, where as rest of you have lied and backstabbed everyone possible and are not viable partners.
Also..... everyone else is desperate to win at all costs, Ult have won enough that it either happens or it doesn't. |
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Im sure there could be made a alliance strong enough to compete with Ultores if people were willing.
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Once again simple reason why even 3/4/5 on 1 you lose to ult is that they play you all off against each other, you just aren't active enough and your dcs aren't agar3s. |
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Norseless wasnt that far behind Ult in terms of activity and fleet movement last round, they only suffered because they were managed and runned by a bunch of lunatics with no idea how to work together.
What i meant that if such a "merger" was to happend under diffrent leadership, they would be able to compete with Ult. Instead we will end up with a bunch of tier 2 tags in CT/p3ng/BowS/BF/KittenZ |
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But it has to be said that after Ult recruited 30 new members last round, they were a lot stronger than they were in R70
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I'd out BF as tier 3 to be honest. We barely send 5 defence fleets a night.
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As far as ult mindset they have won 10 (?) Times in 20 rounds. They don't seem to mind now if they go a few rounds of just competing, because the core is tight and enjoys just playing. Wins happen or they dont, they have that luxury of waiting to add to their tally. Everyone else is consumed by being 1st |
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