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Jintao 20 Nov 2017 00:17

Stats Xmas round 2017
 
It dawned on me that this round is fast approaching its end and that we'll have our tradional xmas round and we need stats for it.

I made a basic layout without AC/DC/EMP in it to show where i see the xmas set heading. As mentioned in the past, we'll be doing an all ETD set for this xmas round.

You can see the stats here.

Bcalc available here.

Any ideas, suggestions, comments welcome. I'll probably finish the set this comming weekend with AC/DC/EMP and process any useful feedback into it unless someone comes up with a better proposal.

Shhhhhhh 20 Nov 2017 18:28

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Is this based on current race stats? Research bonus etc?

Jintao 20 Nov 2017 21:06

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shhhhhhh (Post 3260770)
Is this based on current race stats? Research bonus etc?

Good question, might have to consider looking at those and maybe updating those for this round

Paisley 20 Nov 2017 21:40

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
looks decent will be interested to see AC DC and EMP.

Patrikc 21 Nov 2017 04:13

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
They look fairly balanced at first glance, though all 3 races can build their 4 attack ships to cover all the bases. Whether the off class ships are worth building (for most planets) will depend on their effs.

Will the new quests be available as well?

Cochese 21 Nov 2017 05:20

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Great question. Will we see the general setup of quests or sonething different?

Jintao 21 Nov 2017 09:13

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrikc (Post 3260806)
They look fairly balanced at first glance, though all 3 races can build their 4 attack ships to cover all the bases. Whether the off class ships are worth building (for most planets) will depend on their effs.

Will the new quests be available as well?

The quests will normally be setup as they were for this round. For the next full round a review will be done and i'm sure some quests/rewareds will be updated/tweaked. Which is not abnormal given the high amount of new quests we received.

Jintao 27 Nov 2017 16:52

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
EMP has been set
AC DC has been set
Costs have been set

To do:
Decide what to do with base eta
Look at racial bonuses

Waiting for appoco to upload them to xmas server to do final review

Any feedback in the meantime is always welcome

Mzyxptlk 27 Nov 2017 21:47

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
There's only one good decision to make with the base ETA thing: whichever you assumed when you made the stats is the option that should be picked.

Cochese 28 Nov 2017 01:55

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Roll with it.

Jintao 28 Nov 2017 15:54

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
The stats are now on the xmas server

Stats: Click here

Bcalc: Click here

TheoDD 28 Nov 2017 19:58

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Thanks for not tampering with Base Eta in a galwar round.
I'm against it in regular rounds aswell, but thats another story.
Rather see mz's suggestion about inverted tech order on hulls.

Jintao 28 Nov 2017 20:12

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoDD (Post 3260928)
Thanks for not tampering with Base Eta in a galwar round.
I'm against it in regular rounds aswell, but thats another story.
Rather see mz's suggestion about inverted tech order on hulls.

I have not descided on what to do with base eta's for the record

I was pondering about making the base eta's rather similar since fi co and cr bs target eachother. that way nobody really has an eta advantage

but the mz thing does sound interesting too, could try that in xmas round too. Thanks for giving me something to ponder :)

Jintao 30 Nov 2017 12:04

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Ok stats are done as far as i'm concerned. If you point out a valid issue with the set, i'll consider making some minor updates to the set.

Only thing left to decide is racial bonuses

TheoDD 30 Nov 2017 16:36

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Not sure what the point is of the weird base eta pods. Please explain...

TheoDD 30 Nov 2017 16:52

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
You encourage gal politics and defense abuse with this set.
Some alliances (not galaxies) will abuse this way more than others. So overall :down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::dow n::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::d own::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down::down: :down::down:

Jintao 30 Nov 2017 22:50

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheoDD (Post 3260942)
Not sure what the point is of the weird base eta pods. Please explain...

MZ somewhere made the suggestion to reverse ETA's on the meta classes

curerntly you reward the first research with the fastest eta and the slowest with the highest.

to balance fico crbs better the suggestion was made that maybe those eta's should be reversed

thought it a nice experiment for this xmas round :)

same with the etd style set

TheoDD 30 Nov 2017 22:58

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jintao (Post 3260944)
MZ somewhere made the suggestion to reverse ETA's on the meta classes

curerntly you reward the first research with the fastest eta and the slowest with the highest.

to balance fico crbs better the suggestion was made that maybe those eta's should be reversed

thought it a nice experiment for this xmas round :)

same with the etd style set

The invert suggestion was for tech tree. That you research Cr/Bs hulls first, then Fr/De then Fi/Co... Not put all ships on Fi/Co meta TT. And Give pods the opposite style. This looks lame all over.

Mzyxptlk 30 Nov 2017 23:15

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
I suggested either inverting the tech tree or invert metaclass ETAs. The effects are completely identical.

I didn't have in mind what Jintao has done with the stats, but it looks alright to me.

M3dicMan 1 Dec 2017 03:31

Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
 
Is no else concerned with the fact that half of these ships have unpronounceable names? I feel like I need more education to play this Xmas round. :P


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