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We all know the last week of PA is coming soon, and there is another war in the horizon. I suggest we write on this thread, who is at war, and who has NAPs. This will make it easier for everyone, including those who doesnt play, to understand what is really going on.
Luckily i find myself loved and trusted enough to know whats going on, but when i have spoken to members in other alliances they dont even know who they are hitting! so lets get it all out in the open! |
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i have so much to say but i'm afraid i might get banned :(
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ND gaves Ascendancy the 48 hour warning.
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ND/Asc NAP is ending, amirite? I'd like to know what tick it ends, and who's on who's side.
This looks like ND's only chance at the round win and I'm glad they've taken it. It's been a great round so far and ND have acted to keep up its high quality. <3 Best of luck everyone: whoever takes the win will absolutely deserve it. |
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As for the quality of the round. Yes I am liking it, a lot, although I do have some 'questionmarks' at some political decisions. I wonder what Conspiracy Theory and Omen will now do. When NewDawn 'chickened' out so to speak after Jonny's epic post and 'The Ascendocaust' stopped, it sealed the faith of Omen and CT. I wonder if they (and Vengeance) will now side with NewDawn to give them an easy ride or do a proper '**** you' now that their chances of winning or slim to naught. I really wonder how Omen or Conspiracy Theory could motivate their members to fight another ones war. The only one I can think of is 'denying Ascendancy the round win', which a) Isn't a sure thing, last time I saw NewDawn was in the lead and ceteris paribus would win b) odd, because whatever you think of of Ascendancy, up untill now we played a pretty good fight, even the likes of Zoro and Junglemuffin must agree to that. |
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And this is *exactly* why CT never win anything.
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Huge salvage donations to asc will give them the win!
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Some terrible posts in this thread, particularly the one liners. Please improve by offering some analysis, for goodness sake.
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They are afterall only 7 million behind Asc as it stands, Newdawn and Asc are about to fight it out (1 on 1 lets face it Asc wins everytime), however if CT manage to peg back Asc with Newdawn, Asc will naturally peg back Newdawn and CT should get very minimal incomings through it. You guys have already stated you would ONLY attack the strongest alliance, so what that means in reality is that every alliance can hit Asc, and Asc will only hit Newdawn. CT could find themselves back in the race... I am wondering what DLR's involvement will be also, considering that Elviz is getting closer to Gate for #1 planet. |
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ND haven't had to war as hard as Asc/Omen. They've been intelligent with their engagement and didn't implode their chances like CT did but if they'd ended up winning by roidracing from now to the end I'd have felt unsatisfied. Fighting off Asc in the last 2 weeks (if they manage to do so...) feels more worthwhile. Quote:
1) Have fun 2) top alliance avg score 3) as many t100 planets as possible |
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Can I have some of what you are smoking please Lok. |
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It's generally accepted that you fail at PA so I'm not surprised.
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There's nothing like posting a completely random personal post. |
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I just don't want to enter a debate with someone who is being so obviously disingenuous. You know perfectly well that Asc aren't the easiest way to get roids or even a viable way for CT to get the kind of roids it needs to win from a difficult position. All you are doing is pandering to anti-Asc sentiment by quoting banal generalities that mean absolutely nothing in terms of the practical strategy required for CT to gain the most from this position and to leave themselves in with a shout come the final days.
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CT are 60k roids behind Asc, are you trying to tell me they can surpass Asc's roidcount (as lets face it, they would need to in order to beat them) by roiding randoms while Asc more than likely maintains its current roid count against ND/Omen? CT's only chance to win is by roiding Asc, and hoping that Asc does enough damage to Newdawn to bring them down at the same time. |
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Just a quick question if i may, directed at ND if they would answer for me please.
Has this decision been left until Omen were so far behind they couldn't be counted as a threat anymore? Until it was basically a 3 way fight knowing that asc have been pounding hard on CT so it's a good assumption to make they would join against asc? Omen have made their intentions pretty clear from tickstart and VgN will jump at the chance to hit on asc i imagine. Actually when i think about it i do think ND have played a blinder, most likely CT, Omen and VgN doing their bidding and DLR can keep an eye on things to hold onto planet/gal #1. It's still anyones guess who will win, it is keeping me watching at least. |
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Whether CT want to admit it or not they need to hit people they won't crash on to rebuild roids and morale and to put themselves in with a chance of capitalising on the forthcoming war. Becoming involved in it, whilst disadvantageous to Ascendancy is also adversely advantageous to ND. CT must beat both alliances to win so helping one of them is ****ing stupid. Which is why you are so gung ho for it. Unfortunately I have had the misfortune of being in an alliance with you long enough to know that what you post on the Forums very rarely reflects what you write in private and this is another such occasion. |
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I would be very surprised if there is a scenario where an alliance that isn't ND or Ascendancy can win the round now to be honest.
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There comes a point where numbers trumps skill and given how Ascendancy fared with 3 on 1 last time in the short term (because that's all that's left in this round) a swift victory for either side would result eventual defeat. It's in their interest to see how it pans out rather than the tip the balance horribly from the early stages and then stand by as they get horribly outgunned. So if I was them, I'd do exactly what NewDawn did to get into the position they're in right now. And if you can think of why staying largely out of conflict and watching the opposition kick lumps out of each other was bad for NewDawn, then I'd like to hear it. Because it's exactly the strategy I'm proposing for Conspiracy Theory. |
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I'm hardly surprised that is what you are suggesting CT should do, given that it benefits Asc the most. One things for sure though, the decision that CT makes will decide the round winner, interesting, very interesting. |
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So really your post boils down to the shitty ad hominem of "you're ascendancy, lol!", which I have no time for whatsoever. |
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I don't think there are any contenders other than ND and Asc, nor do I think roid count and roid racing will have any effect on the winner.
This round will basically now be decided by who helps ND or Asc to win. Which although maybe unfair will involve some interesting political play. |
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Tbh, ct shouldnt choose a permanent ally here, just hit where they think they can gain most roids, be it asc, nd or even dlr. And I also think ct hc knows enough about how to gain "easy" roids to do this in a way that benifits themselfs more than another specific alliance. That way they still have a (albeit small) chance of winning.
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My alternative is where CT get the benefit of growth and the opportunity to dictate the balance of the conflict should they feel uncomfortable with how its going, rather than tying themselves to one mast and potentially getting things badly wrong. You would lead them on a path to potential ruin and I see no reason for them to accept that. |
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It's great to read the fear in the Asc posts.
And it's funny how they seem to know what CT should do to have a chance in the round. After they have just dismantled CT's chances in the last few weeks. I think evryone knows that the best course of action is to join the feeding frenzy without reprisal (as ASC will be hitting ND). It's a win win situation for them. They help take down the evil ASC giving them a fair chance to rejoin the race for number 1 and their other main rivals ND take the punishment. |
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We do like it rough and dry
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Now out of ND or Asc which alliance would you classify as the 'easier' to break and thus could be potentially chased down in the final few days? Asc when in a position of higher value have survived 4+ alliances attacking them for days before, are you trying to tell me this round will be any different? |
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It doesn't matter because without a strategy that maximises growth and builds morale, they wont beat either. Why the hell would a strategy that maintains the gap to nd with time running out be worthwhile?
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A word of advice, dont bother. Regardless of how right you are, its simply not in Asc's best interest to admit it on the forums.
I can guarantee, Asc will not be up front and truthfull on these forums, when doing so makes it harder for them to win. |
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The idea would be to pull Asc back very quickly and get a lead on them that they could be 'confident' in, and then move onto Newdawn with 4-5 days to go. This is of course presuming that Asc aren't actually able to damage ND themselves, which is very doubtful! (you have 120 planets fs) |
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<@Theam> !quote good fight <@Munin> <@Achi> Game talks a good fight though Other than that, you are suggesting that CT could catch up with NewDawn after Ascendocaust pt2. has happened. While our suggestion is that CT lets Ascendancy and NewDawn stagnate eachothers growth while CT gains on both. How could that not be in their interest? |
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The only question to answer for CT HC is which alliance they choose to attempt to bring down first. Hey though, I look forward to more Asc members making the same flawed points post after post. Repetition without actually addressing any points raised does not make for good reading. |
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Maximum losses to both sides as you are saying would not mean acting as leverage for one side. |
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No, they should pull an ND, fence it, sit it out and seize the opportunity to or hit both or one of them when it is clear who emerges victorious. Going in full force tonight is just no in their interest. It is in yours though.
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CT will not win the round, whatever strategy they use.
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Given that as a premise I don't know whether they should help those that abandoned them (NewDawn) or should help those who obliged with the NAP they had at the start of the round and acted accordingly when CT dropped it (Ascendancy) or option 3, idle it out.
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I think people are losing sight of reality here.
This a game. The aim of the game (apartfrom having fun) is to win. As it stands only ASC can win. Everyone would agree with this FACT. They have more planets, more roids, more value and even more experience (at winning). So if we break it down the only way any other alliances have a chance is to stop ASC. The only chance any alliances have a chance to WIN (which is the aim of the game) is to stop ASC. Omen have the right idea. 'We're attacking the most likely winner (for fun) even though it looks likely we can't win.' CT have one chance of winning (and it's not fenceshitting) and it's to destroy ASC, gain lots of score while doing so and hope that ASC do enough damage to ND to allow your alliance to sneak up on the rails. ASC will brush aside an onslaught from just ND and Omen within a few days and then the round will stagnate for the last week. Can ASC brush aside an onslaught from ND, CT, Omen, VGN and DLR. I don't think so. In this senario I would give CT about a 30% chance of winning the round. If they do nothing their chances would be close to zero as ASC will surely win. |
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You seem to forget that CT is ****ing horrible though.
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I dont quite understand all these suggestions that CT just sit off to the side and let ND/Asc duke it out. Are you seriously claiming that ND has even the slightest chance of surviving a week against Asc? Do you think its better for CT to let Asc slaughter ND, destroy any will they have for a fight, and then take Asc on solo afterwards? ND will last 3 days of concentrated action at best, while Asc have shown, that they can survive, if not flourish, under the same (or worse) circumstances. It would be folly to not take ur biggest rival out first. Its not just that CT have to stop Asc in order to win the round, they have to gain score themselves. That will come from a large amount of lands on high roid, high value targets. Hello Asc. Asc used a block to take out CT, and put themselves into this position. By claiming the strongest alliance needed to be taken out NOW, as they did with CT, theyve set a precedent for how to go about attacking the Alpha ally. As we saw with CT, attacking the strong ally NOW, is the most effective way of increasing your chances of victory. |
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