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Caj 9 Sep 2019 22:49

How CBA killed Seductive
 
Hello AD!

Its been awhile since I posted here, was encouraged to tell a little story, so here goes.

So after leaving Norse last round in protest over a number of their Brazilian players being closed for cheating during consequetive rounds I was going to have a break, but CBA begged me to come join Seductive

Now I had beef with him over a stunt he pulled a few rounds ago, but I thought meh, maybe he's redeemed himself and not so much of a smurf.

So I said sure.

Things were going fine in seductive, had a good fresh member base of genuinely nice people, and the apprime BG also joined. Many said cardi, caj, and CBA in same tag, doomed to fail, turns out they were right.

So there's many accusations of cheating going on around CBA. My good friend mista chastised me for joining a notorious "cheaters" tag after leaving another.

I thought I'd give it some time and I stepped up did some target assignment one night on Stellar, and that gave me a good idea of how many multi planets were in seductive, how many cousins etc.

And actually, there was quite a few. I gathered CBA had at least 6 planets dedicated to him, that would ground and Def or escort him, these never responded to target assignment or never launched. It was clear they were his cousins one way or the other.

Anyway, I kept plugging along, I really wanted to finish the round in a tag after leaving Norse round before, I let Norse down, had alot of mates there who worked hard for me, and I shouldn't of left just because of a few cheating Brazilians, but that's past.

Now throughout the round #METOO (named after the # trending for sexual assault, of which CBA was accused of but was acquitted in court) kept lolwaving seductive, they setup purely to troll him, due to his understandably poor reputation. They did a good job, but didn't quite land CBA though they fleetcaught many other members. CBA consistently wanted FI grounded to cover #METOO....

Now let's talk about incomings, you would consistently see CBA over-covered while other members would get roided. CBA was always around when he had Inc, and would have prelaunched de grounded just for him. There was one player who would DC the tag fairly and evenly and that seemed to be Kez, who tried hard, cudos to Kez. When 2:10 zwans gal had Inc, all the def went there..when 2:9 CBA gal had Inc all the Def went there....


Anyway let's fast forward to tick 750 ish.

CBA decides to break nap with ultores and sets up a gangbang, a smurf move, of course, but he didn't care.

From that point onwards it was war Vs ult, and all of our FI was to be grounded to cover the ever annoying #METOO. A tag setup purely to troll CBA and Seductive as a whole.

Now, CBA purely grounded FI to protect himself and his potential gal & planet win, there was no other motive.

Then, one night, when FI was supposed to be grounded to cover #METOO and we at war with Ultores.

CBA hit stellar with his FI

Cardi was furious, fisticuffs were flying handbags thrown, cardi left tag and took ten apprime planets with him.

It was at this time I saw an opportunity for revenge.

Two rounds ago when me, benneh, colt, mista, delgado, rabba and others had a strong galaxy with a solid chance to win we had a planet join, CBA said it was him and pretended it was him for 300 ticks, ruining our chances of getting a decent planet and ruining our opportunity for gal win. He did it for fun, but screwed us over. I swore I would exact revenge.

So, with cardi and apprime leaving. I spoke to my old pals in #METOO benneh and colt, and cardi and told them now was the time to lolwave CBA.

I had AF access, so I launched all the anti co AF at CBA planet the tick before the lolwave came.

CBA was roided, and likely as a result his chances of planet win gone.

But then CBA did something that shouldn't of surprised me but it did.

He kicked everyone from Seductive and declared it round over.

Purely because he could see planet win was gone for him.

This act, of destroying his alliance because he felt his planet win chances were gone highlight his intentions.

Seductive was setup purely as a support tag for CBA, giving him the scope to exploit newer players and create multi planets for him to use as escorts and defence planets.

Everything CBA did was for the benefit of his planet.

Once his chances of planet win was gone, he destroyed his alliance, which could of carried on perfectly fine.

CBA is the epitome of everything wrong with planetarion.

He breaks naps, he cheats, has multi planets, and exploits newer players.

I feel sorry for all the genuine members of Seductive, and hope you all find better forever homes. Avoid CBA. He is toxic.

If Seductive returns, stay away folks, unless you're happy to play support.

KillGhost 9 Sep 2019 23:20

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Good and fun read. Just a small adjustment though. Our name is #METOO.

Caj 9 Sep 2019 23:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KillGhost (Post 3263588)
Good and fun read. Just a small adjustment though. Our name is #METOO.

Damn autocorrect, will edit!

KillGhost 9 Sep 2019 23:29

Re: How CBA killed Seductive
 
No problem. Thanks!

Dorf 10 Sep 2019 00:00

Re: How CBA killed Seductive
 
That's absolutely not surprising... But i'm still wondering, why so many people keep playing with him!? Looks like the average dumbass playing PA hates Ult more than CBA...

But well done bringing this toxic behaviour up the table again!

Grimmy 10 Sep 2019 00:26

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*popcorn gif*


Well that answers a question I had about the #METOO guys.

Hissy fit of the round award is definitely his I don't think anyone could top this :banana:

Cochese 10 Sep 2019 02:53

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As a less than average player, I stayed with my Apprime pals. Caj was great as always, and I randomly joined a gal with Kez. Awesome dc and great person. Few others in there I’ve played with before, would again, and consider friends.

Was unaware of any real issues until today. Busy at work, checked in at lunch, AF launched and kicked from tag. Sadface.

If given a choice, I would have stayed and finished out the round. Never been kicked from an alliance, never left one because “emo”. Never jumped ship.

Just my honest account from a peon. Still scratching my head a bit but it’s PA after all.

Xomaz 10 Sep 2019 06:48

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Caj, Cardi and CBA competing about who has the biggest di..ego in this 300 active player game.

Alas, we shall never know. But at least revenge was exacted, very important. Very important. Very.

BloodyButcher 10 Sep 2019 08:24

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There is always two sides of a story i suppose.

Your actions against me, and the rest of the alliance is quite the betrayal, even if it was only aimed to ruin for one guy instead of the whole alliance.

Even if CBA is a cheater, your not justifying your actions with this post, and to me it makes you look even stupider when you say you went back to your criminals friends and known cheaters Benneh/Colt to ask for help to ruin the round for another cheater, CBA.

If you did experince cheating in seductive, you shouldve reported this to the MHs while it was going on, not going the good-ol Ultores route with only reporting cheaters that leaves the tag.

Myself havnt been playing very actively, and not been caring at all, but if i did i wouldnt have joined a tag with CBA and expect him to act all self sacrifising and sh*t.
Like many other HCs and other players in this game, the most important thing is his planet and his gals. Im surprised you did not expect CBA, (and Zwans for that matter), to act any differntly than they have been doing for the last 10 years.

Im not defending CBA, and i understand why you wanted out, i just think you shouldve gone silently into the night instead of launching AFs and sh*t that would effect all those people you did like, and those people that did put in a effort for the "team".
Im not one of those that put in a effort by the way, and i honestly dont really care that im without a tag now.

ReligFree 10 Sep 2019 10:44

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Pretty tragic move Caj. You ruined the round for a lot of people. I thought better of you, I don't anymore. :salute:

Demort 10 Sep 2019 11:08

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I agree with Religfree I like Caj but this was a messed up move to hurt an entire alliance of people not 1 man.

CBA 10 Sep 2019 11:35

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Caj,

When tag was grounded you would 3 fleet attack.

After you got roided you never showed any activity.

I phoned you multiple times to help cover your inc and help iborg dc your gal but you were never around. You even stated 3 days ago if you didn't get a big land soon you would idle out the round.

You did a successful TA on Stella & we landed well. That was your high moment in Seductive second week or so in. Thank you for this and your efforts prior to that.

I am sorry you feel the need to punish a entire tag and sabotage a wave of inc that was unrecoverable and at xx55 to tick i stated in the channel the inc would be closed.

Anyway - I am glad you achieved some "revenge" and I hope you feel godo with yourself :salute:

The level of toxicity in this community really does amaze me.

I get online when i get incs. I dc anyone and everyone in tag when i can. I make sure I am covered - then my gal mates covered as much as possible. When we are being hit by a particular class of ship i prepare ally tactics to combat that.

I wish all those Apprime planets that have joined Ultores channels all the best for the remainder of the round.

I hope you all keep playing as this game has brought much fun to all of your lifes (I hope !)

Anyway - all the best for the rest of the round :)

Caj 10 Sep 2019 14:27

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Hey CBA

Why did you disband the alliance?

When I launched the fleets away to ensure you got roided Seductive had 50 planets.

You disbanded Seductive, and ruined round for all the other players.

Why?

RexDrax 10 Sep 2019 21:16

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Soooooo...if I understood things correctly....

Caj wanted to screw over CBA so he helped organize an attack on his planet but prior to that sent away 10+ ally fleets so they could not be used to defend him. Dick move but hey, not the 1st time we have seen that.

Then CBA got pissed and kicked members from seductive tag, an even worse dick move IMO.

Just because you got roided doesnt mean you should ruin it for the other 40+ members. I get, it sucks being roided but HCs should be looking past their planets and doing what is best for the alliance and its members. Closing the alliance and kicking the members is beyond low and if this is how you act for losing roids....well I am glad that I have not been in the same alliance as you for a few rounds and will continue to stick by that. You should not have kicked the members CBA!

Knight 10 Sep 2019 21:19

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Why is Caj getting the blame for destroying the round for Seductive? got CBA roided, that's it? Just because the reaction from that was to disband, that's not Caj's fault surely?

RexDrax 10 Sep 2019 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight (Post 3263601)
Why is Caj getting the blame for destroying the round for Seductive? got CBA roided, that's it? Just because the reaction from that was to disband, that's not Caj's fault surely?

I am not blaming him for disbanding seductive. If what I have been told is correct.....seductive closing can all be attributed to CBA.

Swainey 11 Sep 2019 07:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight (Post 3263601)
Why is Caj getting the blame for destroying the round for Seductive? got CBA roided, that's it? Just because the reaction from that was to disband, that's not Caj's fault surely?

They ALL deserve the blame.

Each and every act escalated. Each step could have easily been prevented with cooler heads.

Blame it on emotions or ego but in reality all we are left with is a toxic culture, where nobody in that alliance wins.

CBA 11 Sep 2019 10:12

Re: How CBA killed Seductive
 
Caj actions had nothing to do with me closing down seductive.

I was looking for a way out as I simply had enough of waking during the night etc so cardi leaving with 400 ticks to go taking half the tag was a decent way out.

Most of the players seductive core are more support types anyhow

Tbh half of those from
Seductive last round didnít realise they had been kicked until the following day 🤣🤣


Unfortunately I had to do most of the work with pols / TA / DC etc as people donít have the time anymore. Most people are in their 30s now in the prime of their career + have young families.

The toxic community has of course prevented development into the game + new players joining but that is nothing to do with seductive disbanding.

Again, all the best for the remainder of the round for all.

It has been a funny round tbh - CarDi doing tick 800 NAP with Ultores to then form a block on Ultores, to then break his 800 deal with Ultores, to then join Ultores pretty much sums this round up for
Me. Itíll go down as a decent round for drama !! :salute:

RexDrax 11 Sep 2019 17:26

Re: How CBA killed Seductive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CBA (Post 3263604)
Caj actions had nothing to do with me closing down seductive.

I was looking for a way out as I simply had enough of waking during the night etc so cardi leaving with 400 ticks to go taking half the tag was a decent way out.

Most of the players seductive core are more support types anyhow

Tbh half of those from
Seductive last round didnít realise they had been kicked until the following day 🤣🤣


Unfortunately I had to do most of the work with pols / TA / DC etc as people donít have the time anymore. Most people are in their 30s now in the prime of their career + have young families.

The toxic community has of course prevented development into the game + new players joining but that is nothing to do with seductive disbanding.

Again, all the best for the remainder of the round for all.

It has been a funny round tbh - CarDi doing tick 800 NAP with Ultores to then form a block on Ultores, to then break his 800 deal with Ultores, to then join Ultores pretty much sums this round up for
Me. Itíll go down as a decent round for drama !! :salute:


But why did you have to close the tag for the remaining people? By doing so you kinda screwed them over since they were the main course on the roid feast.

Mzyxptlk 11 Sep 2019 21:07

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shocked-pikachu.gif

Zebu 12 Sep 2019 12:14

Re: How CBA killed Seductive
 
Cool story 🥳

KillGhost 14 Sep 2019 02:02

Re: How CBA killed Seductive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RexDrax (Post 3263605)
But why did you have to close the tag for the remaining people? By doing so you kinda screwed them over since they were the main course on the roid feast.

Good question, and one that will remain unanswered.

Virall 14 Sep 2019 18:14

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Cardi destroyed Seductive. Appreciate you wanted revenge etc but you lost CBA one wave and this wreaks, as did the announcement in #planetarion of you wanted to be known as the guy who took them down. I like you a lot Caj, and you played your part, but Cardi took a lot of members and from that moment one it was curtains.

Dinoman 14 Sep 2019 18:28

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ohh my account from 2003 is still active...


Anyway... all these 3 c-c-c need to stop blaming everyone else then themselves...

Grog 14 Sep 2019 20:27

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Damn. As soon as I heard Cardi & CBA were running a tag together I knew I should of joined.
I'd of seriously enjoyed sittin back & watching all this go on.

Assassin 17 Sep 2019 15:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinoman (Post 3263610)
ohh my account from 2003 is still active...


Anyway... all these 3 c-c-c need to stop blaming everyone else then themselves...

It is quite amusing to see all 3 of these people in some type of power within 1 tag isnt it? It was worth logging into the forum today!

Lukey 19 Sep 2019 02:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Virall (Post 3263609)
Cardi destroyed Seductive. Appreciate you wanted revenge etc but you lost CBA one wave and this wreaks, as did the announcement in #planetarion of you wanted to be known as the guy who took them down. I like you a lot Caj, and you played your part, but Cardi took a lot of members and from that moment one it was curtains.

Agree with this. Caj's dramatics didn't really have any impact.

Cardi is the true troll here, by napping Ult until t800, randomly building a block, breaking the nap and then joining the side he had just built a block against for a laugh.

I can understand CBA reacting negatively upon hearing half his tag was about to defect to the side he'd just declared war on.

Overall it highlights the highly toxic nature of PA and especially some of its leading political figures. Based on that, I'd say its an ever improving simulation of global politics! #cardi4UNsecretarygeneral #makelithgreatagain

Dorf 20 Sep 2019 12:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukey (Post 3263624)
Agree with this. Caj's dramatics didn't really have any impact.

Cardi is the true troll here, by napping Ult until t800, randomly building a block, breaking the nap and then joining the side he had just built a block against for a laugh.

I can understand CBA reacting negatively upon hearing half his tag was about to defect to the side he'd just declared war on.

Overall it highlights the highly toxic nature of PA and especially some of its leading political figures. Based on that, I'd say its an ever improving simulation of global politics! #cardi4UNsecretarygeneral #makelithgreatagain

And you will nap them (toxic leaders) EOR anyways next round and cooperate... Like the last rounds... :banana:

Adapt 20 Sep 2019 15:59

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CBA Caj and CarDi are heroes, made for an interesting round, thanks pals

DannyB 20 Sep 2019 18:51

Re: How CBA killed Seductive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KillGhost (Post 3263608)
Good question, and one that will remain unanswered.

I'll have a go.

CBA didn't kick everyone and disband the alliance single handedly. We lost 10-15 players once the ex-apprime players defected with cardi, and then we had a discussion in the WA group about what to do.

We'd lost some good scoring players and the gal win chance was gone. I don't think there was anyone volunteering to step up and help CBA run things and fill the void left by caj and cardi. The ally's overall standing was going to decline and the general feeling from people involved in the chat was that there wasn't really much left to play for in the round now. We might even end up taking heavy incs as other allies smelled blood.

Ave 26 Sep 2019 23:12

Re: How CBA killed Seductive
 
Lets not forget he created Seductive too :)

The ones follow who does.

Ave 26 Sep 2019 23:36

Re: How CBA killed Seductive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukey (Post 3263624)
Agree with this. Caj's dramatics didn't really have any impact.

Cardi is the true troll here, by napping Ult until t800, randomly building a block, breaking the nap and then joining the side he had just built a block against for a laugh.

I can understand CBA reacting negatively upon hearing half his tag was about to defect to the side he'd just declared war on.

Overall it highlights the highly toxic nature of PA and especially some of its leading political figures. Based on that, I'd say its an ever improving simulation of global politics! #cardi4UNsecretarygeneral #makelithgreatagain

Cardi didnt wana fight Ult again as the only main figure. It seemed so by what we spoke of, but the nap was done in harmony by others agreeing to it.

The terms of the talks never got fullfilled, so in that light the nap came void and new declarations were made before the tick 800 passed.

I believe it saved this round to be less stagnated. Ofc the Ultsies might feel different :D

stay_posi 30 Sep 2019 23:51

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having not followed the forums or really any aspect of PA in a year or two, it's nice to see the tradition of CBA being a generally bad person is still carrying on

lokken 1 Oct 2019 20:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk (Post 3263606)
shocked-pikachu.gif

:up:

Kargool 5 Oct 2019 14:39

Re: How CBA killed Seductive
 
I was coming on to see how PA was doing and if it was worth playing again.. Then I saw this and realised.. nope.. stay away.

Ave 5 Oct 2019 18:45

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Lol


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