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I'd just like to say that personally I feel really sorry for all those Phraktos members, maybe those who weren't around all the time or who weren't vocal, who suddenly found their HC had put them at war, in most cases with galaxy mates, then found Krush and Touri, (who quit FAnG to join Phraktos if I'm not mistaken?) deleted their planets after FAnG, MISTU and other alliances hit Phraktos in reply to their unannounced launches just 1 1/2 days ago, and since then have really seen players leave to join other alliances or just quit as the round ends in about 10 days time.
Maybe I'm completely wrong and they all had a secret vote about going to war and wanting to hit everyone else, but I doubt it somehow. I think anyone trying to keep Phraktos going is creditworthy, if fighting an impossible battle, and I'm not sure whether we'll see Phraktos around next round or not. If we do, I'll have nothing but respect left for those in it from this round. |
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Well said But so much happened what most of the phraktos member prolly didnt even know about. I assume krush handled alone and thought hisself worthy enough to talk for the entire alliance |
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To All Of You Who Are Gonna Flame Phraktos In This Thread:
I Totally Agree With You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111 |
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I am wondering how many Phraktos players are allowed to join Mistu/Fang or any other alliance for that matter.
Once there was "honour" for an alliance in not taking in "defectors". is that honour still there ? |
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i must say even i feel somewhat sorry for Phraktos. so much so i even apologised to one when i found out my target this morning was phraktos (i didnt actually know). i've played every round of PA and i've never seen so prominent an alliance die so drastically and visibly, without even a blaze of glory...
as i write there are 47 members remaining. That's still enough to make a decent go of it, IF (and it's probably a big 'if' i expect) they can get their act together. but with just 10 days left is there much point? i never liked FPM but this is just sad :( |
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I think maybe you meant you feel sorry for those Phraktos members who suddenly found they weren't at war for 4-5 weeks? |
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I feel sorry for the members too. They put their trust in the HC there, and the HC let them down.
Also, I don't see any reason why an ex-phraktos member wouldn't be allowed to move to FAnG or MISTU. They fought on that side before. If they get through the application (although I'm not even sure if MISTU are still recruiting, I'll have to ask an RO) ok, with vouches etc, thats fine by me... |
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TomKat worried about losing 2nd place to WP?
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The round only lasts for 10 more days. Everyone recruiting ex-phraktos players now just has no spine... AFTER those 10 days is another story ofcourse.
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And everytime a phraktos got waved, we couldn't cover it, they just wanted to delete as well. You have no idea what you are talking about. You have not been in the conditions we have been in the past few days since this whole fiasco started. |
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Loyalty and dedication isn't something the HC have set a good example for. |
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Anyways, you might want to re-read my post, i wasnt so much having a go at Phraktos members that are jumping ship, i was putting myself in the shoes of a FAnG or Mistu HC and saying what i would be thinking. I have never had a problem recruiting people in between rounds, however i dont see the point of recruiting people mid round from an opposing block, as you are just leaving yourself open for problems that you dont need to subject yourself to seeing as you are already winning. |
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But anyways, kudos to the ppl in Phraktos deciding for the war. :) |
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Not just that, but some Phraktos (including some of your galaxy - though not you personally) proceeded to send attacks at other Phraktos, in some cases using all 3 of their fleets. Those Phraktos attacking other Phraktos with 3 fleets are clearly either: 1. Taking roid donations from Phraktos members who no longer care - which is farming and against the rules, 2. Have such a low level of loyalty that they not only jump ship but assist in killing off their former comrades. Do you have any infromation on which of these is it? And which do other AD readers find most disgusting - the behaviour of these individuals, or the behaviour of the HC of Mistu/FAng which, even if not accepting them as members, are happy to give these planets protection? |
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The following View is something im expressing as an individual and do not reflect in any way my alliance views.
What happened to Phraktos right now is something i can say i experienced in the Past, is end of Round10 sounds to you a little bit familiar? An alliance can be an analogy to a troop in the Army, Soldiers are gathered around their officers, They fight with him day day and put their trust in him, as an ex-soldier and ex-officer in the Army, i would say that if i didnt trust my officer, i wouldnt dare to go into many missions we had and i wouldnt follow him because this can result into a very bad experience at the worst case: Death. The same was about Phraktos, the minute Grim left Phraktos and the alliance was commanded by the Few HCs left, (Colle left too but made a fishy come back or at least walked around like he owned the place), Trust and respect for an officer is not something you give in 1 day, its something you build over time. Which mean, that Phraktos members knew that Krush and the other combination of their Officers was a bad combination and couldnt be trusted. SO basically we have an alliance with a low activity and recent problems who continued to carry on, kicking one by one their 'inactives' members and roiding them, thinking its all about score/roids. If you stay with your HC (no matter if they are compentent or not) during nice Time, you are Forced to stay in the BAD time, Having your HC declaring war on other alliance, no matter if it was wrong or good, is one of the power given to the CEO/HC by the member of the alliance, therefore if you didnt trust Krush: Why the hell did you continue to play under him? and if he did Self Elected himself to CEO while you all knew he wouldnt be effective, why did you continue to play with him and did not took over the alliance. You (Phraktos) worked hard this round to finish off the round, But by not taking down the HC or making a stand and leave your alliance before the war, you acted like you didnt care, you stayed therefore you all need to take responsabilities on this and stand united, because its obvious that your HC (krush) is no longer around, he left - he ran away. you had many chance to leave your alliance (if at your views it really suck) and join other alliance or at least make it to shock your HCs and maybe push them to improve it. But you didnt, you stayed and you tought you would end the round with #2 in alliance ranking and peting your nice Roids and your nice Ranks, when suddently Krush declared war on FAnG and MISTU, all went down, all your nice plans were called off, and you had 2 choices: 1.Obey to your HC and kill us and stand with your mates from your alliances. 2.Quit your alliance, betray your HC (why now?? because its the easiest way to save your own skin?), Betray your Mates and join another alliance? Theses make me think, that basically i wouldnt go too far and say i am sorry about the phraktos members, because theses who come to me and say that phraktos was shit all round are just hypocrite that stayed all the round in Phraktos for selfish Reasons (and tbh i wouldnt like to play with them) or the one who really enjoyed Phraktos but left after they saw the fall of their alliance, are just traitors that need to be roided to the Ground by either FAnG/MISTU or either the Enemy to teach them and show them what is Loyalty. I must agree with Syn_sid, especially FAnG - They dont have to recruit anymore, WE are fine and Big Enough to finish this round on our own, with the same memberbase than the initial one WE had at tick 1. In fact, this War just pushed us to become Active 100% again, bringing some joy and roids to us back. |
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*You* may not know the political situation - but just try getting clearance from your HC to hit the Ph in the #1 galaxy and you'll find out just how shitty it is. Quote:
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I for one am very dissapointed by phraktos's quick demise, i wa slooking forw ard to an exciting end to the round :/
Still as much as I feel sorry for all thosoe let down by Phraktos HC etc, I would still like to see the Phraktos in the top 4 gals die. |
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It's not that I haven't played seriously - I have been pretty active. It's more that I have played for my alliance, and not for myself. I take the crappy targets that are left in raids. I customised my fleet to roid Xans, to cover them in galaxy raids. Because of that, I had a couple of unfortunate landings on them and had my Scythes all wiped out twice. I also lost 75% of my FR recently, as a Xan landed on me who I wasn't expecting to land (he lost 20k FI though... silly goose). |
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And sure - they "expressed an interest to move to FAng or MISTU": do you seriously expect me (or anyone else for that matter) to believe that "expressing an interest" gives you a planetary nap? Depending on whether they had the consent of their targets or not they either farmed or are low-life scum: all i'm interested in is knowing which of the two. EDIT: Oh, and my condolences on your experience with a xan. I've had attackers land on me who I expected to recall - plus I've landed on a xan who had an entirely different fleet to what I eexpcted (with pretty bad results for me) :) |
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Although it does make the game slightly more exciting (as exciting as numbers on a screen can get...), not knowing what to expect when you land. |
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Concordium was the most feared alliance of r1, and came out strong as WaC in r2. The moment Fury+Legion declared war, they folded like a bad hand of cards, setting the stage for 2 more rounds of single sided boredom. |
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If you truly believe someone who leaves their alliance and the same day attacks their ex-alliance members with 3 fleets in justified then we'll have to agree to differ. Personally, I'd roid them into the ground before letting them near my alliance. Tomkat mentioned this as being a chance to recruit new loyal members for next round - all I can say to that is that my expereience is that ship-jumpers during a war in PA have never proved (to any great degree) to be loyal members in my experience. I'd far rather recruit (for the next round) members who stuck by their old alliance for the round's duration and took their punishment with their alliance-mates. |
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This is so amusing.
If you build an alliance based on shipjumpers, cheaters, folks with huge ego's in one go, its often takes about the same time to kill it off as it took to build it. An empire that grows fast, dies fast. :) |
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tbh, we have learnt from our mistakes, going to war with Fang i was not sure if we was going to win, but i surly never expected this to happen, i know we was bad but i never expected in a million years something like this would happen to phraktos.
Going to war with Fang was not our mistake, as i see it we needed a better structure (Obviusly), I am glad we showed our bad weakness this round, we are a new alliance which has learnt by its mistakes, and will be back next round, Phraktos will keep on playing, there is no point in just giving up so easy, I know not as many ppl will prolly WANT to join us after what happened this round, but we can only improve if we keep trying/playing and learning from our mistakes each round, if any thing im glad Fang and Mistu killed us this round, if it happened next round due to what ever politics and we died in the begining for the same reasons, then there goes another bad round for alot of people. We are just lucky it happened at the end of round (forgeting politics). We can only keep trying, we can only improve, and i don't hate Fang and Mistu for killing us, infact me personaly (even some others won't) thank both Fang and Mistu for killing us at the end of round, so we are now working on improvements for next round :). |
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Assuming that planet #10 in the top galaxy is who I heard it is, then very little suprises me of their actions. A PA career surrounded by controversy.
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they come to you say 'can i join?' you go yes and while thier application is gathering vouches you take advantage and rape, this is not honourable. if you are ex phraktos who did fight on thier side your far better off without drawing attantion to your alliancless planet. |
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well well well it seems you cant even miss a day of planetarion :p
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ALl i am gonna say is
HAHAHAHA Phraktos have coasted without a good HC/office structure, they made a bad decision and now the consquence is they have fallen apart Bd luck Phraktos Pld FAnG/MISTU |
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im waiting for incomming now Phraktos has allmost no members left its the perfect opportunity for WP to roid them all
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I am sorry for al those members - FAnG knows what its like fr there HC t throw a spastic and then the round go's under. I just hope they find new homes worthy of there abilities. 1 bad decision destroyed the round for them. Glad I never had to leave my allies or break promises for some false quest. Oh well roids for our members anyway :D |
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just a little OT here i seem to remember fury and virus doing exactly the same with some of fangs biggest members in our founding round :) as we were teh only challange to you you used exactly the same tatics :) cant fault them either they work spot on |
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If Phraktos HC have made any mistake, it is that they waited too long before declaring war, and did not secure themselves enough allies before doing so. Staying in the block with Mistu/FAnG would have been the cowards way out (assuming Mistu/FAnG would have allowed them to stay in the block for the remainder of the round).
As for the defectors... I can understand why FAnG/Mistu would want to take Phraktos members in. Attrition wears down the member base each round, so a chance to recruit some good (if somewhat unreliable and glory-seeking) members is unforunately too good to refuse for most HC. In the long run this might prove to have been a mistake, if these new members act with the same degree of loyalty to their new alliances. As an aside, I suppose these recruitments by FAnG/Mistu could be an attempt by one or both of those alliances to strengthen themselves for a final battle with each other, though I suspect that's just wishful thinking on my part. |
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Phraktos have been arrogant and hard to work with all round. They have made decisions on how strong and stable they were as an alliance. Yet its a first round alliance. They made a decision and expected everyone to love them for thee actions and all they did was commit suicide. Staying in the blokc wasn't the cowards way out it was the nly ay out with the way the round is structured. However arrogance and a belief they were better than what they were led to there own collapse. There will be no final battle betwen FAnG and MISTU - we have co operation has been good all round and I would not expec that to be dissapated with some actions against each other. Unfotunately rob you way off the mark with this post apart from that phraktos believed everyone would love them and in fact it hasn't happned. if they had laid the foundations correctly and done this a the correct time they would have stood a better chance, but they never. Then they backstabbed WP by allowing them to be roided by allis who never wanted them in in the first place. They have completely and positivey lacked and strategic vision in there attempt to break up the block and wre hoping for far more bad feeling towards fang having a big impact in turning the tide for them. I think Phraktos wont be here next round and thats a shame for its members. Still alliance turnover can only be healthy for the alliances that remain. |
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Simply stunning, why even post here. Learn the facts first. |
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Although Dread is pretty dreamy and cute <3 |
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