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meglamaniac 28 Jun 2004 00:51

Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Yes, thats right, I've been watching Top Gun and for that I apologise.
But c'mon it has to be done occasionally, and it was on TV so what the hell.

It did remind me how well Hot Shots spoofs it tho
:)

Belgarath The Sorcerer 28 Jun 2004 00:52

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
So you've finally come out of the closet.

Well done, very brave of you.

JonnyBGood 28 Jun 2004 00:52

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
<JBG> i have a question, is top gun the ultimate gay fantasy film or not?

meglamaniac 28 Jun 2004 00:54

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Well, i'm sure the beach volleyball scene would "do it" for anyone who's that way inclined.

JammyJim 28 Jun 2004 01:21

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
i quite like top gun. not because its gay but because it has planes in it and it shows them flying about and shooting other planes


i like planes.

JammyJim 28 Jun 2004 01:21

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Ps Planes Is Not A Metaphor For Men

And By Shoot I Mean Bullets And Missiles (as In Sidewinder/maverick/aim9m) Not Cum Or Willys.

NEWSBOT3 28 Jun 2004 01:30

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
pfft, as if the maverick missile would ever be used in air to air :P

Boogster 28 Jun 2004 01:55

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
I watched it too. And, sometimes, I enjoyed it.

Is there something wrong with me?

JonnyBGood 28 Jun 2004 02:05

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogster
I watched it too. And, sometimes, I enjoyed it.

Is there something wrong with me?

Judging by this other post
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogster
Call me a prude, but I'll wait until I'm married.

I'd give you a 60% chance of being gay.

JammyJim 28 Jun 2004 02:17

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWSBOT3
pfft, as if the maverick missile would ever be used in air to air :P


its tv guided :-)))))

I KNOW MY PILOT SIM GAMES!

the f14 is equipped with the long range missile that can fire over 200 miles away.....the Phoenix i believe its called.

NEWSBOT3 28 Jun 2004 02:43

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JammyJim
its tv guided :-)))))

I KNOW MY PILOT SIM GAMES!

the f14 is equipped with the long range missile that can fire over 200 mil
es away.....the Phoenix i believe its called.

i didn't say it couldn't :-)))))

aim54-c phoenix , and its 100 nautical miles , 184km
also, they are huge, can only really carry 2 of them.

also, as used in the film, the engines for the model a f14 tomkats were unreliable, they were tweaked for the b and replaced completely for the latter D models with a different manufacturer.

Boogster 28 Jun 2004 03:10

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
Judging by this other post

I'd give you a 60% chance of being gay.

Sorry Mr Promiscuous, and your slutty friends.

skiddy 28 Jun 2004 13:21

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
(as In Sidewinder/maverick/aim9m)

Pedantic post, the Aim-9 is the Sidewinder.

Oh, and F-14's are rarely, if ever fitted with Mavericks, as Mavericks are AG and the F-14 is a carrier based interceptor.

The F/A-18 is the carrier based strike aircraft which is outfitted with Mavericks on occasion.

The engines are made by Pratt and Whitney, they just put a different engine in the latter versions to get rid of the issues with the earlier ones.

Dante Hicks 28 Jun 2004 13:26

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogster
Sorry Mr Promiscuous, and your slutty friends.

:rolleyes:

Ragnarak 28 Jun 2004 13:27

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NEWSBOT3
i didn't say it couldn't :-)))))

aim54-c phoenix , and its 100 nautical miles , 184km
also, they are huge, can only really carry 2 of them.

also, as used in the film, the engines for the model a f14 tomkats were unreliable, they were tweaked for the b and replaced completely for the latter D models with a different manufacturer.


As if the film wasn't gay enough already you just made it supergay

JammyJim 28 Jun 2004 14:11

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
goose wouldntve died in real life either.....
the canopy doesnt work like that.

skiddy 28 Jun 2004 16:34

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JammyJim
goose wouldntve died in real life either.....
the canopy doesnt work like that.

Yes it does.

In a flat spin, the plane is spiralling directly downwards at a relatively low rate of descent. The canopy goes directly upwards to allow for tailplane clearance when at forward speed. The ejector seats fire at a greater speed than the canopy, thus meaning it wouldn't have had time to clear the area before the seat was launched - which rapidly caught up with the canopy resulting in his death.

Canopies have now been changed due to a pilots death in a similar accident. Now, instead of being ejected from the aircraft, the canopy is lined and crossed with small strips of explosive which shatters the canopy on ejection. Usually the debris flies backwards due to the aircrafts forward velocity and the crew are ejected safely upwards and away from the aircraft. However, in the remote cases of flat spins, during ejection the canopy is shattered and the crew are fired through the debris, which causes little to no harm as they have their helmets/visors/suits/gloves on.

IncubusGod 28 Jun 2004 16:52

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
I used to watch that film about once a week(maybe not that much but a hell of alot) from the age of 6 to 10. Then I got so sick of it I didnt watch it for years.

Watched it there last night. My GOD that is one gay film. I mean...it must have been filmed on Gay celluloid with Gay enhancing chemicals and paid for entirely with pink dollars supplied by hairdressers.

I mean c'mon they ever went "All this talk about planes is giving me a hardon" and his partner replied "Dont tease me"

Conclusion: The Air Force is full of homos

JammyJim 28 Jun 2004 17:06

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
the canopys are designed to smash on impact and the seat is higher than the pilots head so he wouldve gone straightr through it

IncubusGod 28 Jun 2004 17:11

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Hang on....we're debating the realism a film where Lybian MiG's happen to arrive at the exact time where our hero Tom Cruise has to prove himself to everyone and save the day? Where Tom Cruise WOULDN'T fail the height requirements to a pilot?
Where everyone is a raging closet homo...

Well maybe the last one is accurate...

skiddy 28 Jun 2004 17:11

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JammyJim
the canopys are designed to smash on impact and the seat is higher than the pilots head so he wouldve gone straightr through it

Discovery Channel says you lie.

JammyJim 28 Jun 2004 17:34

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
i watched an entire thing on 'WHEN PILOTS EJECT' a few weeks back and i watched the footage of the canopy being smashed into trillions of pieces when the pilots hit it if it was still there.

If there was an engine fire which threatened to explode the plane on the ground how do you think they eject? Theres no wind to remove the canopy so your buggered . It fires off and then if its hit will smash

skiddy 28 Jun 2004 18:25

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
Strip along centre of canopy, on an F-14, the aircraft in question I believe...

http://www.cs.biu.ac.il/~preisks/F14@sunset_small.jpg

skiddy 28 Jun 2004 18:30

Re: Fox 3 Iceman!
 
http://techreports.larc.nasa.gov/ltr...aa-95-2047.pdf

Just incase you don't like pictures, here's the address to the NASA whitepaper for ways was to fracture the F-16 aircraft trilaminate canopy allowying a throughcanopy egress.


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