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Cores are way too overpowered compared to early attacking, no way even with good roiding to beat the cores tbh. Only thing is that u gain some early xp over core builders.

So balance it out?

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Cant we all just get along

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if you invest in cores you do get good value, but at the expense of things like ship travel techs and ship techs and that's going to hurt you a bit by tick 200 or so.

are you saying core should give less resources? or have bigger research times?

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Give less resources, its good to have a basic income, but roids should value more.

Other option is to increase income from roids. It doesn't help either that they are more expensive now, which results to less capping.

As an example last round I started with attacking, did fairly well aswell beeing somewhere in top 10. I don't remember any exact numbers, but lets say I had something like 300 roids more than the idling planet next to me building cores and he had like double more income than myself. As a conclusion its rather ridiculously off balance and doesn't much pay off to be "active" in the beginning.

It is valid to have 2 options for the start, but right now its sadly limited to just one.

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Finished core research is 75000 base income, or 300 roids' worth.

It's a lot, yeah, but I don't really mind it. A good basic income allows more people to keep up with the rat race, until the point where value actually starts playing a role: late-round alliance wars.

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Saves my ass

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Cores arent OP, I might even say Core3 should only be 6400 RP.
They are imo a good solution (together with refineries) for keeping the value of the playerbase closer together. In the long run even topplanets benefit from that. I remember how it was 40 rounds ago, top10 planets could barely attack anyone due to bashlimits, didnt have any problems with bashlimits in r70/71..