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Appocomaster 8 Oct 2008 14:36

Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
To remove some of the confusion around this issue, I'll try and explain the differences between these accounts (also known as free/upgraded accounts) from Round 29 onwards.

Basic accounts are much improved on previous rounds. They have full access to Population, Government, Buddy Packs, History and Journal pages (they can also save news items, and so on). They have no research limits or construction limits.

When you use a credit to upgrade your account to a premium account, you get the following bonuses:

-No adverts
-A one-off bonus of some combination of resources, asteroids, construction units and research points
-Half price exiling between galaxies
-A wider selection of skins to choose from
-Being able to stay inactive for twice as long in a galaxy whilst being 'unwanted' by it.
-Being distributed with the other upgraded planets at shuffle time

The upgrade bonus needs some explaining, as it is different to current rounds, where a planet would receive a one-off resource boost.

-To upgrade, a player purchases a credit and upgrades their planet as normal
-Once upgraded, the player is asked to select their upgrade bonuses
-The player can choose between a resource boost and an asteroid boost
-The player can choose between a construction unit boost and a research boost
-The player can choose these bonuses at any time after upgrading. The bonuses all increase tick by tick until being selected
-Once the player has chosen between these options, the resource/asteroid bonus is IMMEDIATELY allocated to the account
-The research/construction bonus can be allocated to specific researches/constructions as the player requires, but the bonus amounts do not increase after selection

The precise bonuses are as follows:

Code:

Type                Start Bonus  Additional Bonus Per Tick
Each Resource Type  5000          4000
Each Asteroid Type  3            1 (per 10 ticks)
Research Points      2000          20
Construction Units  1000          15

As an example of allocating Construction Units, if you select your bonus at tick 300, you get 1000+300*15 = 5500 construction units.
You can use this to gain 5 free constructions, assuming your current research allows it. You can also allocate the remaining 500 construction units to your current construction, if you have one. The allocation of constructions can be done as required as many times as you wish, until the bonus is gone.

The allocation of research points works in a similar way. However, you can use the research points to partially complete researches rather than to complete one or two researches.

If you ever want to reset your planet, you can re-select the bonuses if you have already upgraded your account.

bitesize 9 Oct 2008 19:02

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
i assume someone has worked out when are the best time to do the swaps...

please let me know :-)

hairypalms 9 Oct 2008 20:46

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
so lemme get this straight, if i choose the resource type and lets say i leave it untill tick 1000 i would get 4000*1000 = 4mil of each?
so i can wipe out an unsuspecting attacker?

eksero 9 Oct 2008 20:52

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
You would wipe out your attacker with 120k extra value in ships?

hairypalms 9 Oct 2008 21:13

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
depends on scenario no?

Mzyxptlk 9 Oct 2008 21:34

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
At tick 1000? Yeah man, good luck with that!

stay_posi 10 Oct 2008 02:53

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Appocomaster (Post 3156652)
-Being distributed with the other upgraded planets at shuffle time

any chance of that counting for exiles too?:up:

Makhil 10 Oct 2008 03:02

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
so basically, people will be paying to have a bigger value/score at the end of protection ?

Appocomaster 10 Oct 2008 09:00

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stay_posi (Post 3156748)
any chance of that counting for exiles too?:up:

the exile system takes a planet and places it in a galaxy with relatively fewer planets in it. It doesn't do anything else
Quote:

Originally Posted by hairypalms (Post 3156720)
so lemme get this straight, if i choose the resource type and lets say i leave it untill tick 1000 i would get 4000*1000 = 4mil of each?
so i can wipe out an unsuspecting attacker?

Yes, if you want.
However, if you used it earlier, you might get more ships that'd allow you to get more asteroids.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makhil (Post 3156749)
so basically, people will be paying to have a bigger value/score at the end of protection ?

If they decide to select their bonus by the end of protection, but yes, paying will give you an edge over a basic planet.

Mzyxptlk 10 Oct 2008 09:04

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eksero (Post 3156721)
You would wipe out your attacker with 120k extra value in ships?

By the way, that only has a chance of succeeding if they don't scan you.

M0RPH3US 10 Oct 2008 11:24

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Appocomaster (Post 3156652)
-Being distributed with the other upgraded planets at shuffle time

i am not sure if i got that right, so we end with galaxies full on payed accounts while other galaxies have only free accounts ???

pls correct me as i hope i am wrong here

Appocomaster 10 Oct 2008 11:27

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M0RPH3US (Post 3156770)
i am not sure if i got that right, so we end with galaxies full on payed accounts while other galaxies have only free accounts ???

pls correct me as i hope i am wrong here

Yes, apologies.

At the shuffle, buddy packs are created, then premium accounts are randomly added across the galaxies, then basic accounts are randomly added across the galaxies.
This is what I was trying to describe :(

RuBBeR 10 Oct 2008 12:38

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Appocomaster (Post 3156771)
Yes, apologies.

At the shuffle, buddy packs are created, then premium accounts are randomly added across the galaxies, then basic accounts are randomly added across the galaxies.
This is what I was trying to describe :(

I don't see any advantage here for payed accounts?

Mzyxptlk 10 Oct 2008 12:54

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
There isn't. It just helps ensure there's an approximately equal number of paid and free planets in each galaxy.

P.S. I'm not buying into this "premium account" and "basic account" terminology.

RuBBeR 10 Oct 2008 17:35

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
So if your not in a bp you can better upgrade your account after shuffle then?

Mzyxptlk 10 Oct 2008 20:44

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Hey that's a pretty good idea :o

I should've thought of that.

Carpathia 11 Oct 2008 19:26

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
I am sooooooooo underwhelmed by the significance that I may well elect a free account over a paid account. The incentives are much greater than paid, even though the cost of a paid account is next to nothing compared to what I lost in the stock market the last hour.

bitesize 12 Oct 2008 16:38

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
if i use some of my construction bonus up but save a little, will i still get 15 additional points per tick??? or the remaining fraction of additional points of my remaining construction bonus... if you catch my drift... :p

Linkie 12 Oct 2008 16:57

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
As far as I understand you have to spend all of your bonus at once.

Spritfire 12 Oct 2008 17:47

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
When you chose your bonuses you will get the amount calculated with the formula Appocomaster posted longer above.

When you have chosen you wount get more.

You dont need to use your bonuses right away, you can just use a little if you want to.
And then use the rest later :)

Vladel 12 Oct 2008 18:24

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
So you don't carry on getting the bonus after you have chosen ie 20 res points a tick?

Otherwise i don't see alot of point in paying at all

Banned 13 Oct 2008 14:22

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladel (Post 3156901)
So you don't carry on getting the bonus after you have chosen ie 20 res points a tick?

Otherwise i don't see alot of point in paying at all

No, you don't carry on getting a bonus.

Hooray, the game is actually playable for free planets o//

Appocomaster 13 Oct 2008 14:47

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carpathia (Post 3156850)
I am sooooooooo underwhelmed by the significance that I may well elect a free account over a paid account. The incentives are much greater than paid, even though the cost of a paid account is next to nothing compared to what I lost in the stock market the last hour.

You can always take that route and then if, around tick 600, you happen to want a few ticks of resources (2.4 mil of each) or to finish off a few researches with 14k research points, you can.

I know that as many people will upgrade to get rid of the ads for work (and to get the spreadsheet skin, or in fact any apart from the 2-3 basic skins), rather than the resource/research etc boost.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banned (Post 3156948)
No, you don't carry on getting a bonus.

Hooray, the game is actually playable for free planets o//

We have made some effort to make this true (free planet won r20, etc). But yes, now it's a lot more true

Mzyxptlk 13 Oct 2008 14:49

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Which are the 2-3 basic skins?

Appocomaster 13 Oct 2008 14:54

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Currently Round 23 (default), Text Only and Mars (Mars being the possible 3rd)

Mzyxptlk 13 Oct 2008 15:19

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Woo! No upgrade for mz then!

frozendust 13 Oct 2008 16:33

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
and what about queuing construction?
Is that also possible in the free-account?

Cochese 13 Oct 2008 16:55

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Yes.

At least they do in the current Beta (no upgraded planets...we're all using freebies)

Bubert Samson 13 Oct 2008 23:42

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
This should work out nicely, I hope that at the very least it will bring us over the 2k player mark.

Almost makes me regret buying those extra credits last round, at least they will help me get a bit more of a backup strategy.

frozendust 15 Oct 2008 16:25

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Appocomaster (Post 3156952)
I know that as many people will upgrade to get rid of the ads for work (and to get the spreadsheet skin,


hehe :-p, :devil:

it's a real cool skin, everybody is always thinking you are working on excell.. I'm not gonna wait long.

bitesize 15 Oct 2008 17:29

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spritfire (Post 3156894)
You dont need to use your bonuses right away, you can just use a little if you want to.
And then use the rest later :)

will i get added bonus on the "And then use the rest later"

????:rolleyes:

bitesize 15 Oct 2008 17:45

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
oo oo - what effect does government and engineers have on the research or construction points in relation to using one of these new upgrade tools?

eg say i have a res with 2400 RP, but i have 50% enginnering - does this m,ean that my RP is 1200? and so i would only use up 1200 of my 2k research points first tick?

SUFC 20 Oct 2008 07:47

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
Is there going to be a possibility to pick the bonuses seperatly? Atm you need to pick them both at the same time.

Appocomaster 20 Oct 2008 09:06

Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
 
nope


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