How exactly are new multihunters picked?
It has come to my attention that remy's retirement from the multihunting team has led to new members joining. These members are butter and judge apparently. Now I have no problem with butter, don't even know the guy to be honest! Judge on the other hand happened to call someone a "turd eating lith piece of trash" ingame towards the end of last round. This is the guy we're expected to respect as a fair and impartial adjudicator of what breaks the rules as regards abuse and/or racism? I mean, I'm perfectly aware that the multihunting team is actually just a collection of a few guys with enough time on their hands to attempt to eviscerate all the fun out of a game played by a thousand people online but surely this is taking it too far? I mean, can we at least wait a round or two to appoint judge as a multihunter? Maybe until he manages to avoid abusing someone based on their ethnicity ingame for a few months? Just a suggestion!
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You're a turd eating lith piece of a trash.
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butter is a girl FYI!
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"Undermanned" as in size or quality?
Because I don't know either of the two guys, but if what JBG said is right, then you should have been more careful in the process. And god forbid we get a load of bad multihunters. |
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fyi butter is the new fiery. only older, even less fit and wanting to be a 'mother figure'.
Also she has always been Elysium. |
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Just another example of how neutral he is.
#[16:46:40] <Tekno> like mrs and mr smith #[16:46:51] <+Judge> if you really care about your planet, then i suggest you stop associating with people like CarDi #[16:47:03] <+Judge> he is nothing but trouble Well jeez, that's about as neutral as Hitler was in WW2. Also if there is just 1 mh leaving, why are 2 needed to replace him. Do as suggested by JBG. add 1 now, Judge a few rounds later when he learned not to have hard feelings towards ppl playing this game. |
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I was in ND for 1 round, and to my knowledge butter never has been. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story eh ? |
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If procedures haven't changed since the few days I left, any new Multihunter-to-be is trainee/trialist/powerless for at least one full round.
If any of the new MH's don't succeed, i'm sure they will be kindly removed from their position. |
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You just left :P
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So can i call my fleet 1 "turd eating lith piece of trash" without fear of being warned/closed in r34 ? Can I replace "lith" by "paki" for my fleet 2 and use "jew" for my fleet 3 ?
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I like how despite the fact judge has responded on this thread to a completely irrelevant point and the multihunters have all read it nobody has managed to actually say anything meaningful in relation to the initial point :up:
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I believe Judge is one of those people that lurk in #support all the time – which is fairly easy to join up to and seems a natural recruiting ground for the MH team. Yes, Judge is a passionate guy and appears to be slightly biased against Cardi's Lithuanian group - however they do have a track record of misdemeanours against the rules of PA so maybe this stance is only natural for those enforcing the rules so commonly broken. While I find Judge hard on a personal level to get on with - I have no doubts as to his integrity and having been a part of the #support group seems a natural choice.
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I'd even appreciate a "we don't view this as a problem" or even a "we think you're making this up" rather than just ignoring the problem and hoping desperately it'll go away.
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Did you actually expect any from of feedback?
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JBG-
No, they do not care. No, they do not think it is a problem. Frankly, in a game where the person/galaxy/ally which finds the cheapest way to stack the odds against other players wins, and clear cut cheating is difficult, if not semi-impossible to establish (but for those that are watched for any infraction from pre-ticks), I'm surprised there is actually an issue of who polices the game. As for Judge, why not consider the opposite? If you see (after his initial "powerless" round, ofc) an increase in the deletion/reprimanding of those considered a "turd eating lith piece of trash", then get an awe-inspiring show of support and get him removed. |
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hmmm...
Just an analogy ... So you're saying ... put a drunk on a brewery. If he gets drunk all the time, blame and sue him? Wouldn't it be wise to put him on a bakery first? Than if he proves to be trusted, put him on the brewery? |
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Nah, I'm saying the admins don't care atm, so why should we? (Since we're less powerful individually.)
Also, I'm saying that this (like every other "controversy") will die down and no one will care by next round unless Judge is flagrantly and abusively offensive (and possibly not then either). |
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[19:30:52] <Cain> Ace?
[19:31:09] <+Ace> yes [19:31:42] <Cain> as head MH [19:32:00] <Cain> can you (for the love of jezus) reply on the forums [19:32:20] <+Ace> like I told a few others too [19:32:35] <+Ace> no matter what i put there it will be mocked [19:32:43] <Cain> doesnt matter [19:32:48] <Cain> saying nothing is worse [19:33:04] <+Ace> I dont agree [19:33:21] <+Ace> ppl added as trainee dont mean thay are full MHs [19:33:33] <Cain> ok [19:35:08] <+Ace> if trainees dont follow the rules or are found to be good (EDIT !BAD!) for the team they will be removed [19:35:17] <+Ace> as what happens to all trainees Meaning Judge can't close people, he can only observe and check his cases with Ace before action is taken. Problem solved people, shows over, don't leave the popcorn behind on your way out! |
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How will we survive?!
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I'd be interested to know how many MH trainees have not progressed to full MH's for reasons other than not being active enough... |
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A point to JBG ... if we had a dollar for every time someone has ranted or lost their temper and said something dumb, we could have paid the national debt of lithuania !
To take one incident out of context, and remember its original setting was around Cardi, whose repuation preceeds him by many miles, is himself a self confessed racist and possibly the holder of the banned from most places badge, would be extremely wrong. Cardi does test peoples patience. Judges performance whilst being on the support team was good, and whilst you do have to tow the line while being a support crew member and hold back opinions somewhat, you are not bound by the NDA but by your own intgrity, Judge and Butter if taken on after the trial will have a strict set of guidelines by which they must conduct themselves as official representatives of the game, both their patience and self control will be tested to infinity as no-one thats ever been contacted or closed goes into that channel in a happy frame of mind. If they pass this test, then they deserve their placement . It is a test after all, not a placement already. |
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go go Cardi :D |
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How is 'turd eating lith piece of trash' racist?
You could say he might be biased against certain players, or isnt able to keep his cool and be civil, but what does race have to do with it? |
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Nonetheless if the best we can hope to say is 'judge isn't racist he's just horribly prejudiced against lithuanians' I'm not really sure we're going down a productive path. |
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Im still failing to see how Judge, even if he was racist.. could screw up a 'trial' where he has no responsibility. I'm also wondering why he was selected after saying such things in the previous round... i guess it is just a club for MH. Be support for 1 round or two, then ask to become a MH.
I'm also wondering why the original question still hasnt been answered.. what does it take to become a MH? one round of answering a question a day in #support (note: nothing else, no writing any guides, no real guidence to new players.. just idle in a channel. Yes im completly biased against the support team, as i dont understand what they do.. They answer on average one question per day, yet the stragegy forum is void of any advice or any guides, the PA new player guide is a version written for 10 rounds ago, in short.. they do absolutly nothing). I also find it curious that MH say "he wont pass the test if he's racist or prejudist", yet the round before he was saying stuff hatfull things? surely he shouldnt of been picked due to his previous record... we all know Judge will make full MH as long as he stays active, regardless of anything hes done in the past or will do. |
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Ethnic - pertaining to or characteristic of a people, esp. a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like. Which makes us all part of an ethnic group - i'm from essex and female - does that make essex girl jokes racist jokes ? Lithuanians in planetarion do have a bad rep and not just because of cardi's vociferous views. I'm quite sure that there are some really nice law abiding tow the line ones, we just havent met them yet and it clouds judgement, which is not racism, its being human! My point is that we are all capable of saying things in the heat of the moment that we regret uttering, it does not make us bad people, it does not necessarily make us racist, it makes us what we are - slightly flawed human beings. Capable of strong emotions which we cannot allways control. |
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For me to be racist, I would have to call you a "f**king $ETHNICITY / $NATIONALITY moron". |
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There's a misunderstanding here.
Saying that a person is (for example) English is a statement. Saying that a person is (for example) a bastard is an insult. Saying that a person is an English bastard is a statement *and* an insult. Saying that all English people are bastards is a racist statement. Discriminating against a person because they are English is racism. |
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so if i call someone a black twat its a statement and an insult and not racism?
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