Is this theft?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/4535408.stm
while this ramp is an interesting idea, it works by taking energy from the cars, energy that the driver has paid for through the purchase of fuel. Are these road ramps basically the equivalent of siphoning off fuel from your tank? |
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yes, because driving over that ramp requires more energy than just drinving on a normal road, doesnt it?
it could still be chaeper than for example a higher tax on fuel though. |
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I know that they waste huge amounts of energy, I was just wondering about the technicalities of these things. Personally I think it is quite an interesting idea, though I can't see how it would do anything for the environment, and would be little more than saving council electricity bills. I think installing little solar panels or wind turbines on the lamps would be a better idea.
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I don't think so, provided you signpost the ramps.
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whoever is financing this thing is thieving himself.
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seems a fantastic idea.
you know, the same way communism once did. |
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I wonder what happens if you hit one doing 100mph.
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for example, if rather than lifting your tonne car over the speed bump you have to depress this thing instead, will doing so cost more or less than lifting your car? |
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true enough, it was an assumption.
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These might make sense (energy wise) if you put them in front of stop signs or other areas where cars need to slow down/stop. It could capture some of the energy that would otherwise go towards heating up their brake pads.
I don't think they'd make much sense on the open road though. The article doesn't really make it clear where they're intended to be used. |
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How long does it take an average traffic light to use £25,000 worth of electricity?
My bet would be "quite a long time". This just seems like yet another gimmick, and as has been mentioned, is a shit one at that as it does nothing to "save the envirnoment". All that happens is instead of burning fossil fuels at a power station, a little extra fossil fuel is burnt from each car passing over it. I'm willing to bet power stations are slightly more efficient than cars, so this is in fact WORSE for the environment. |
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This reminds me of a similar story a few years ago (in the UK or elsewhere) about a guy "stealing" electricity via inductive loops under High Voltage power lines. He got prosecuted (not electricuted).
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i'm assuming that the idea is to use them places where laying cabling to supply power would cost more than the ramps themselves.
i believe the power cost has already been covered as well as it canbe, given the vagueness of the reported application. |
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I don't believe that it is theft because it is powering the freely provided traffic infrastructure, such as the stoplights, that make driving feasible. In other words the driver gives, but also get's something in return. It's ethical. A sign would make it more ethical, however.
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somehow, i can't see their introduction leading to a decrease in road tax tho...
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Having had a look at the site, they make the point that these things should be installed in places where the cars are slowing down anyway, so they actually assist the car slowing down and make some electricity from the kinetic energy that would have otherwise been wasted.
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hell, you could probably sell the idea as big speed bumps, or something :) |
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