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So much drama before the round, then round starts, and nobody is angry at anyone?
Come on, there has to be some drama out there? Let's get it all into the open, so we can laugh at it. I saw an etd with 5 light factories, anyone beat that yet? |
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All quiet on the western front.
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I'd like to know who dented p3nguins.
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I saw someone with 12 res labs!
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Great lesson if you want to maintain credibility on the forums:
Don't build research labs. |
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I've seen a Scanner with 34 amps, its shocking how retarded people are these days..
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yeah, what kind of moronic scanner builds amps?
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Well after 31 rounds they still didn't fix zik getting rewarded for noob bashing. That's quite dramatic tbh.
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I just find it fun, that alot of people deemed it necessary to try and say that my strategy last round was an insanely stupid one. Even though, right from the start.. my strategy got me into the top5 (and top Xan) and which should of also led to me finishing top5 minimum (and top Xan) if i hadnt crashed (which you cant use as a point against it, as that wasnt part of it :P). Take for instance, the start where i had real competition for the #1 Xan spot.. I grew faster than them, even though they could keep up in roid count.. due to me being able to mine all the roids i had. When i was close to 2k roids, i could mine them all.. while my closest Xan competitor could only mine 1250 (even though she had almost the same roidcount as me, reese). So in conclusion, its a poor strategy for the average player like you but for those of us who are awesome.. Its a perfectly valid strategy. |
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But I liked your tickplans for this round, thanks for that. Im sure more people appreciate it. Ontopic: How many rounds had drama in PT180 ? |
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The attributes to finishing in a top rank are all about how much defence you get, how much help you get attackwise, how active you are, how much you don't crash and your alliance politics work out. Keeping up with research is a pretty minor factor, so I'd entertain that Light got top 5 by turning up every day, attacking every day and not getting attacked or screwing up too much.
I'd bank on the fact that continuously building research labs were ancillary to her success. The research advantage in the latter stages of her res centre building wouldn't have diminished much if you stopped building them, as you would still have a pretty solid percentage even if you stopped building them. So I can't see that many ticks being lost to be honest once you've got say 8. I can see why you might want to build res labs longer than most people do, but through the round is just wasting structures you could use for say, finance centres (where higher mining percentage would certainly make up for a slight delay in research on roids that couldn't be mined). The fact Light finished top 5? Irrelevant. The fact Light was able to mine more roids? Well we'd be squabbling over what the gap actually was; I'd conclude that if you had stopped say close to halfway, not building research labs wouldn't have caused a significant dent. My view is that this research lab idea might have been a nice idea initially but keeping going after a while was just a waste of structures. Quote:
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Sorry for the drama on your planet Kargool :crymeariver:
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[22:18:15] <@HaNzI> hey stif
[22:18:21] <@HaNzI> there is a moaning thread on the forums [22:18:28] <@HaNzI> cant u pastebin the benneh convo? :P Hope those 3 lines of IRC text wont be whined at... Anyway here it is.. http://pastebin.com/f4cbce064 |
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lo again stifs :D
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JBG and BENNEH are my best friends, true story. Then JBG and I both got moderated out of the alliance discussions thread we were man-handling each other in. ABSOLUTELY NO COORDINATES OR HINT OF COORDINATES OR WHATEVER |
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@Lokken, she didnt finish t5 anywayz :)
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Have u emo quit your alliance yet? ;) |
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I m in p3ng under a diff nick you silly hill billy |
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I've pretty much grown to dislike the strategies deployed to get a planet to #1. Way, WAY too much escorting and people roiding planets where effort has been selectively applied with regards to defence. They talk about these victims being angry, but no serious player is ever annoyed at losing a tick of roids because in the grand scheme of things it's toss all. What's worse is that a lot of the contenders for #1 planet are guilty of it (and some of them have probably been Ascendancy) and they're just devaluing the achievement by doing so. Does anyone here seriously doubt that if it's two planets fighting for #1 it won't be down to who has the most friends to attack the other planet and will acquiesce to be roided so they can help their favoured planet win? The first strategy is pretty shit (particularly if they are both in the same alliance), the second is just cheating with a made up alibi which the MH have no choice but to accept. But I'd say to be in the ballpark of even thinking of getting to #1 my points are still valid. |
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So looking at sandmans over the last couple of days its obvious Apprime are growing at quite a rapid rate. Anything interesting happening to prevent this? No good pollitics? (ie no gangbangs yet?)
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I'd have to say that the last three rounds of #1 planet races have been physically painful. Planet rank races have always been dickless piles of shit though so it's probably a good thing overall that recent events have brought it so spectacularly into the open.
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from an outsiders perspective (playing in an alliance outside the t10) this round is quite dull :-(
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I promised assman that I d step up and be active if p3ng is fighting for #1. good thing apprime is running away with it, so that I can enjoy summer <3
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Lol no offence Wish, but you haven't been active ;)
Still everyone predicts elviz + cardis ego get into a fight ant the ally splits up... wonder if that happens |
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The problem is, Asc has dictated politics either directly or indirectly for the past 4 rounds. So now its clear that they arnt in contention for the win, nor trying to win (with the amount of cov-ops and scanner planets they have)..Alliance HC dont know how to organise politics.
I suspect it'll still end up crap as usual and just be a gangbang on Apprime.. instead of a fair and interesting war. |
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I dont see how you can compare last round to this round.. when this round, we have 4 alliances who are close enough to fight for #1. While last round we only had 2 with the universe hating 1 of them :)
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But anyway, some MS Paint analysis so people can see the current situation for themselves outside of the hysteria: http://yfrog.com/4zr32graphp As it's early on in the round, XP (and maybe even roid cap) massively distorts score gains and value hasn't really shown who can dominate yet, so I've focused on roid counts as at this stage its probably the best indicator for success. Why? It shows who is making consistent gains and most important of all, who is able to defend in the face of random incoming: if you can defend at this stage its a massive bonus and bodes very well for the future. As you can see from the graph, Apprime is massively outroiding its opposition, who are getting relatively modest gains. Once the round really got going after week 1 (that's about 168 ticks), we've seen them as very efficient roiders. Their graph looks very reminiscent of Ascendancy graphs I've seen from r30/31 when we've gone a run of days consistently roiding (note the 'hops' on the graph). At this stage the margins look small in score (I haven't posted them but you can look them up quite easily) and seem relatively harmless, but as you can see from the trend lines, the gap in income is going to become larger quite soon. While this doesn't mean 'domination' it does give a basis for an alliance to outgrow another one and dominate in the long term. As you can see i've accounted for this for by circling the tick where Apprime started to build some breathing space over second and third (although in the context of the round that gap is currently insignificant). Obviously this is very early in the round and a bit of cack handed analysis. Later in the round it's possible to do something with a bit more depth with sandmans graphs. But I thought the graph gave a few initial conclusions that we can draw from the first 10 days or so. This graph does not show that Apprime will dominate; it simply shows that they could. People are free to conclude from this what political moves are necessary and what should be done to address this. I make no recommendations as to what to do next except that people would do well to look at the data and use their experience of previous rounds to make a decision on the best move. |
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Why you are using linear extrapolation on an obviously exponentional trend is still beyond me.
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kinda doubt this will be a fun round for me though. p3ng in apprime fortress gal. sigh :( ( we started the round with only 2 appr! :( ) |
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and I joined an ally around pt 0 or so, long after bp was settled. agreed though, and I m just stating the obvious. will be whine, drama and a shitfest. which I dont like :( |
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