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dda 15 Feb 2007 19:50

"The Queen"
 
This past weekend, my wife and i went to see the movie "The Queen."

It was rather interesting and well acted. I was wondering if the movie has been released in the UK and if any of you have seen it.

The movie was basicly about the death of Diana and the reaction of the British royal family, the public and the government to that event.

The movie, in my opinion, made Tony Blair look rather good, made his wife look rather bitchy, portrayed Charles as a wlimp, Phillip as a bastard and HRM as a sympathetic figure who was in rather a tough spot trying to react to an unprecidented situation.

If any of you have seen this movie, I would like to know what your reaction to it was.

If you haven't seen it then feel free to contribute opinions without any foundation, same as always.

All Systems Go 15 Feb 2007 19:53

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I havn't seen it but people have been raving about it over here for a very long time and it has won many (British) awards.

Deffeh 15 Feb 2007 19:58

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irrelevant family gains more publicity, many dissapointed :(

Mitc 16 Feb 2007 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dda
The movie, in my opinion, made Tony Blair look rather good.

Not like real life at all then.

G.K Zhukov 16 Feb 2007 14:14

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Making Blair look good? Historical revisionism!!!!!!!!!!








:)

_Kila_ 16 Feb 2007 14:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitc
Not like real life at all then.

Blair had a really good media image until sometime around 2003 actually.

Appocomaster 16 Feb 2007 14:24

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This thing called "war on iraq" happened :(

Deffeh 16 Feb 2007 14:25

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yeah and the break up of the libertines was the biggest musical event since the end of britpop :rolleyes:

_Kila_ 16 Feb 2007 14:26

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Libertines suck.

Yahwe 16 Feb 2007 14:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dda

The movie, in my opinion, made Tony Blair look rather good,

Yes.

This was its most obvious flaw.

dda 16 Feb 2007 19:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahwe
Yes.

This was its most obvious flaw.

Did you see the movie?

What was your opinion of the way it portrayed HRM?

furball 16 Feb 2007 19:53

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dda:

HRH = His/Her Royal Highness.
HM = His/Her Majesty.


There is no such thing as HRM :)

dda 16 Feb 2007 20:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by furball
dda:

HRH = His/Her Royal Highness.
HM = His/Her Majesty.


There is no such thing as HRM :)

Thank you for this pithy reply.

Did you see the movie.

What was your opinion of the way it portrayed EIIR?

Tomkat 16 Feb 2007 20:22

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I haven't seen it but I've heard good things about it!
I don't know why I'm posting when I have nothing constructive to add! Sorry dda!

I love exclamation marks!

Yahwe 16 Feb 2007 21:23

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I tend to thing that Her Majesty ought not be portrayed in films for foreigners to gawp at.

:(

furball 16 Feb 2007 22:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dda
Thank you for this pithy reply.

Did you see the movie.

What was your opinion of the way it portrayed EIIR?

I haven't seen it, but I tend to agree with Yahwe - I'm uncomfortable with the idea of the Queen being portrayed in a film. The clips I've seen of the movie confirmed this. As for the portrayals you mentioned earlier, they're extremely stereotypical and so have a decent chance of being completely wrong.

All Systems Go 16 Feb 2007 22:44

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What's your greatest objection to this? Is it because she is still alive? What if it's autobiographical?

furball 16 Feb 2007 22:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by All Systems Go
What's your greatest objection to this? Is it because she is still alive? What if it's autobiographical?

It's because she's the Queen, and I hold her in a certain amount of reverence.

All Systems Go 16 Feb 2007 22:50

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Oh, like Muslims and Mohammed?


Edit: that's quite a good band name, I think.

furball 16 Feb 2007 22:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by All Systems Go
Oh, like Muslims and Mohammed?


Edit: that's quite a good band name, I think.

No, just the Queen. I'm perfectly happy to mock God, Muhammed and Vishnu in a variety of ways, but the Queen is sacrosanct. I'm not going to pretend that this is a logical view, but that's just how it is.

voodoo 17 Feb 2007 01:21

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seen it couple of months ago. it was pretty good (my sisters liked it more), and it managed to give a pretty good insight on the british royal family and somehow gave me a better understanding of the way they see things, it brings out a "poor little rich girl" feeling. you can't help it but sympathise with her.
worth watching

Deffeh 17 Feb 2007 02:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by furball
It's because she's the Queen, and I hold her in a certain amount of reverence.

i had to quote this to tell you you're an asshole

KaneED 17 Feb 2007 02:07

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Would you have sex with the queen?

Deffeh 17 Feb 2007 03:02

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no shes hackett

demiGOD 17 Feb 2007 06:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KaneED
Would you have sex with the queen?

Yes.

Phang 17 Feb 2007 08:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by furball
It's because she's the Queen, and I hold her in a certain amount of reverence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deffeh
i had to quote this to tell you you're an asshole


Tomkat 17 Feb 2007 12:09

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I don't think the film exists to mock her though.

This might sound bizarre, but I think of the Queen as some sort of responsible granny figure. So anything making fun of her would be like something that makes fun of my gran - which obviously I wouldn't like. I'm not sure if that's the same as what furball's trying to say, but I wouldn't use the word "reverence" to describe my feelings about her.

JonnyBGood 17 Feb 2007 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by furball
No, just the Queen. I'm perfectly happy to mock God, Muhammed and Vishnu in a variety of ways, but the Queen is sacrosanct.

That's what they thought before the animal rape videos but hay, turns out it's still kosher!

Kargool 17 Feb 2007 12:11

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I enjoyed the movie. It actually became one of my must buy and have on DVD.

It was for me a very heartwarming drama about a character i more or less only knew from pictures and rather critical reports being brought to me from a press clearly biased against her.

Although she might come out as rather stiff and unable to grasp reality at times, it also told me about a person who's entire upbringing was challenged and forced to think different.

All in all, I liked the movie and recommended it to my friends who in turn also liked it.

milo 17 Feb 2007 12:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KaneED
Would you have sex with the queen?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Deffeh
no shes hackett



I think shes doable, giggity.

milo 17 Feb 2007 12:27

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edit tk is partly right some vague feelings of granny hood have filtered into the old bint, i have no hesitation in despising her grandsons though, especially as they seem overly keen to go and fight for the occupation of another country.

All Systems Go 17 Feb 2007 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by milo
I think shes doable, giggity.

Queen Elizabeth II
by Marcus Adams
bromide print, circa 1939

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiki
Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor; born 21 April 1926

Only here would people fantasise about having sex with Queen Elizabeth when she was 13 years old.

Nodrog 17 Feb 2007 12:35

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Biographies should only be made about interesting people. I wouldnt go to watch a film about the Queen or David Beckham because I would almost certainly end up bored. I would however go to watch a film about Richard Feynman.

milo 17 Feb 2007 12:36

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Thats about the age her cousin and husband first laid eyes on her; he then married her and laid the rest of himself on her.

You can't judge me :mad: :(

pig 17 Feb 2007 12:37

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Helen Mirren

Phwoaar

I saw the movie sometime ago and while I was getting a bit bored I soon got into it. It's well acted and quite life like. Pretty much how I saw the royals to be. I think a film like that is good in this day and age.

It may or may not be historically correct but it certainly means people have a higher opinion of the royals. It's one thing people not seeing, hearing from them but eventually that too will be their demise.

At least a film like the Queen keeps the royals in the spotlight, and alas look we are talking about them!

In summary, a good film.

Helen Mirren.

milo 17 Feb 2007 12:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodrog
Biographies should only be made about interesting people. I wouldnt go to watch a film about the Queen or David Beckham because I would almost certainly end up bored. I would however go to watch a film about Richard Feynman.



qft, although the life of Alan Turing would probably make a better biography. Feynmann would make a brilliant teacher, but id stereotype a biographical movie going something like

scene 1

be wacky

scene 2

genius

scene 3

wacky

Turing's life has the bitterness and despair at its heart that makes it British. Feymann was...hollywood.

Nodrog 17 Feb 2007 12:53

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I dunno, Turing would be another good subject for a film but it would be too easy to make some generic 'genius broken by irrational society' sob-story rather than focusing on his achievements. Horribly cliche 'human interest' angles need to be avoided at all costs (Beautiful Mind for instance).

I would also watch a film about Paul Erdos.

All Systems Go 17 Feb 2007 13:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pig
Helen Mirren

Phwoaar

I saw the movie sometime ago and while I was getting a bit bored I soon got into it. It's well acted and quite life like. Pretty much how I saw the royals to be. I think a film like that is good in this day and age.

It may or may not be historically correct but it certainly means people have a higher opinion of the royals. It's one thing people not seeing, hearing from them but eventually that too will be their demise.

At least a film like the Queen keeps the royals in the spotlight, and alas look we are talking about them!

In summary, a good film.

Helen Mirren.

Yes, pro-monarchy propaganda is what is corrupting the youth of today. :rolleyes:

Dante Hicks 17 Feb 2007 14:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by furball
the Queen is sacrosanct.

You just lost.

milo 17 Feb 2007 14:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodrog
I would also watch a film about Paul Erdos.

Yeah me too, have you read the man who loved only numbers?? i read it a few years ago, it was pretty surprising he didn't initially 'get' the monty hall problem.

You Are Gay 19 Feb 2007 17:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
That's what they thought before the animal rape videos but hay, turns out it's still kosher!



Not if you're raping a pig.

Tomkat 19 Feb 2007 18:41

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I'd watch a film about nodrog and the internet :cool:


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