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Gayle29uk 18 Feb 2005 22:44

Cheap cigarettes
 
Does anyone have any experience with buying cigarettes over the net? Years of exposure to the net and all it's scams tell me that at least half the sites out there are con jobs but surely SOME must be legit? ANd if so, someone must know which.

I'm bored of paying for Gordon Brown's budget, I want my ciggies at a reasonable price!





And no, before you ask, stopping smoking is just not gonna happen.

Zword 18 Feb 2005 23:12

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Overhead a conversation few days ago tbh . You've got cheap russian (that way country) siggies and they even got cheaper ciggies there but don't buy the cheapest cause the filter drops of from the tip :S


(they come in normal siggie packeges like mallborro I think)

Tip: quit smoking sigs and start with sigars

Snurx 18 Feb 2005 23:28

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I found a cheap place one time, but I was so young that I did not dare order (Beacause my mom would have found out I was smoking)
:(

Actually, it's a great idea, but what about the taxes? At least in Norway, the taxes on ciggarettes are huge, and I don't think you can buy tax-free items on the net?

wu_trax 18 Feb 2005 23:31

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a) get friends (who don't smoke)
b) somehow make them travel to egypt
c) tell them to bring back cigaretts
d) smoke

that way i got 400 cigaretts for 20€ (shop price for me = 70€) and those are exactly the same you can buy here, not some cheap eastern european version.

ofc this is no long term solution, but i think ordering them online with less taxes is illegal, so it's probably hard to find anything legit

Dace 18 Feb 2005 23:32

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meaple knows all about cheap fags*













*or so i hear

Dante Hicks 18 Feb 2005 23:33

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Why not just buy from people in real life?

People selling "discount" cigarettes are ten a penny - sometimes it's hard to get into a nightclub without people trying to forcibly sell you crap like that.

1-X 18 Feb 2005 23:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle29uk
Does anyone have any experience with buying cigarettes over the net? Years of exposure to the net and all it's scams tell me that at least half the sites out there are con jobs but surely SOME must be legit? ANd if so, someone must know which.

I'm bored of paying for Gordon Brown's budget, I want my ciggies at a reasonable price!





And no, before you ask, stopping smoking is just not gonna happen.

I read this and thought "I know just the avatar for you..."

Yahwe 18 Feb 2005 23:39

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errr...

thanks ta gayle. HMCE (her majesty's customs and excise) will now be reading and watching this forum.

oh and just in case you wondered

yes - vat evasion is illegal
yes - they'll prosecute you no matter how little you evade
no - they have nothing better to do.

please stop turning this forum intoa crime synicate. its not as though you're bright enough to know what you're doing now is it.

Dante Hicks 18 Feb 2005 23:42

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:rolleyes:

Dace 19 Feb 2005 00:05

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homosexuality Is Illegal!

Rids 19 Feb 2005 00:51

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Tax evasion is illegal, and they'll prosecute me no matter how little I evade?

A lifetime of prison and sodomy awaits me.

Yahwe 19 Feb 2005 00:59

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good.

MrL_JaKiri 19 Feb 2005 02:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahwe
yes - vat evasion is illegal

I'm shocked and confused.

Yahwe 19 Feb 2005 02:48

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oh dear

KaneED 19 Feb 2005 02:51

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Do not smoke Russian, worst fags ever to be honest.

Phang 19 Feb 2005 03:30

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importing goods to a value of less than £18 means no import tax, so importing from the Channel Islands means no VAT. lots of packages of cigarettes to the value of £18 or less each = success.

djbass 19 Feb 2005 04:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahwe
errr...

thanks ta gayle. HMCE (her majesty's customs and excise) will now be reading and watching this forum.

oh and just in case you wondered

yes - vat evasion is illegal
yes - they'll prosecute you no matter how little you evade
no - they have nothing better to do.

please stop turning this forum intoa crime synicate. its not as though you're bright enough to know what you're doing now is it.

I'm pretty sure impersonating a god is in some way illegal (I know, religion and all not really a legal status but its against the bible at least).

MrL_JaKiri 19 Feb 2005 04:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by djbass
I'm pretty sure impersonating a god is in some way illegal (I know, religion and all not really a legal status but its against the bible at least).

Assuming that he's not actually Jehovah, I think the word you're looking for is "blasphemous".

Snurx 19 Feb 2005 06:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahwe
please stop turning this forum intoa crime synicate. its not as though you're bright enough to know what you're doing now is it.

Me and Dante are going to fool you all into robbing a bank for us, so we can spend it all on the revolution! ( Plus pizza, drugs, beer and chicks :cool: )

Dante Hicks 19 Feb 2005 14:36

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Listen to Snurx.

Raging.Retard 19 Feb 2005 15:45

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Smokers avoiding tax on their ciggaretters deserve to die (soon). Unless you have private health care of course, so the NHS doesn't pay for your problems later in life with money you didn't pay.

LHC 19 Feb 2005 16:20

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Maybe it wouldn't be an issue if they got rid of the N....

MrL_JaKiri 19 Feb 2005 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LHC
Maybe it wouldn't be an issue if they got rid of the N....

:confused:

Snurx 19 Feb 2005 16:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raging.Retard
Smokers avoiding tax on their ciggaretters deserve to die (soon). Unless you have private health care of course, so the NHS doesn't pay for your problems later in life with money you didn't pay.

I would happily chip in a few bucks for the common good.
Howerer, since my tax money goes to giving the army some new toys to play with instead of, for example, giving the elderly a nice retirementcastle (like Springfield!), or giving free books to people in school, I don't really see the problem.
They try to force me to pay for shite I'm not interested in, so I try to not pay!

Raging.Retard 19 Feb 2005 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snurx
They try to force me to pay for shite I'm not interested in, so I try to not pay!

By the same standard, I am not interested in paying for *your* health care .. so I should be 'tax exempt'* too?



* Evading.

Snurx 19 Feb 2005 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raging.Retard
By the same standard, I am not interested in paying for *your* health care .. so I should be 'tax exempt'* too?



* Evading.

If you don't like free healthcare for everybody, why pay for it? It would be better if everybody could ear-mark their own taxmoney, and thus get services after what they pay for. I don't pay for the army, I skip the draft. That crazy looney with the shotgun don't like healthcare, when the cops shoot him he has to stich himself up. Or, not. But, if you could decide what to spend taxes on yourself, it would be much better!



ps I don't really evade, I just try to be high and mighty on the forums :(

Kurashima 19 Feb 2005 16:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snurx
ps I don't really evade, I just try to be high and mighty on the forums :(

Thou Shalt NOT do MM out of a job!

MrL_JaKiri 19 Feb 2005 16:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snurx
They try to force me to pay for shite I'm not interested in, so I try to not pay!

Doesn't really work with healthcare or social security.

pig 19 Feb 2005 17:06

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my housemate lives in gibraltar, there it costs £10 a carton for 200 marlboro lights, some how he manages to bring back 50 cartons a term, sells them fo £30 (I buy them for £10) try the universities international students they normally bring back fags, at least at my uni theres signs up everywhere advertising cheap fags at the start of term.

pig 19 Feb 2005 17:07

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Oh ye be warned the cheaper you buy the fags the more you smoke!

Gayle29uk 19 Feb 2005 17:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phang
importing goods to a value of less than £18 means no import tax, so importing from the Channel Islands means no VAT. lots of packages of cigarettes to the value of £18 or less each = success.

I thought this as well, apparently it's wrong though. Cigarettes are excise goods so exempt from this rule :(

Ragind retard: FYI, I have full private health coverage.

I have no objection to contributing to the state but as a single working smoker who drives I've been shafted in every budget speech since I reached the age of majority. I've had enough of being ripped off but with HMCE illegally seizing the cars of people importing more than their "guidelines" I daren't drive over and bring back a year's supply (I live in the north so don't have the easy access to the channel enjoyed by the south).

I want to legally avoid being ripped off but it seemd to be impossible :(

xtrasyn 19 Feb 2005 18:25

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move to spain

€ 2.10 here, would come down to 1 pound 80 or something

Tactitus 19 Feb 2005 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raging.Retard
Smokers avoiding tax on their ciggaretters deserve to die (soon). Unless you have private health care of course, so the NHS doesn't pay for your problems later in life with money you didn't pay.

Smokers are a "very good deal" for national health care services as they tend to die young. The extra taxes they pay on tobacco are just gravy. :/

Yahwe 19 Feb 2005 21:56

Re: Cheap cigarettes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle29uk
but with HMCE illegally seizing the cars of people importing more than their "guidelines"

err... you mean of course, 'legally seizing'.

Gayle29uk 19 Feb 2005 22:20

Re: Cheap cigarettes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahwe
err... you mean of course, 'legally seizing'.

No, I was very specific in my phrasing.

The law says I can bring back as many cigarettes as I like from the EU provided they are for personal use. If I choose to bring back 10000 in a trip (about enough to last a year) I am within my legal rights to do so.

However, the government in it's very finite wisdom has decided that 3200 is an appropriate number for personal use and they take great delight in confiscating the cars and goods of those exceeding that number. If I lived in the south and could nip across the channel for next to nothing then I wouldn't be too bothered, as it is I live in the north and do not have that easy access to cheap crossings and so the cost of repeated crossings would negate the point of going in the first place.

The European Commission is looking into the and the government has already lost more than one court case on the issue.

Yahwe 19 Feb 2005 22:46

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errrr....

HMCE are impowered by what you call 'the law' to seize the cars of people they suspect to be smuggling.

hence its not illegal.

nothing in the above rant has anything to do with whether their seizing your care is legal or not.

CrashTester 22 Feb 2005 12:40

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As far as I know, you may receive cigarettes from people abroad as a 'gift' upto the a certain value (more than a pack of 200 fags in some countries). However, you cannot pay for the gift. So, you need to find a friend abroad, pay them a few hundred quid in advance and ask them to post you fags as gifts once a week or something. It might work.

Otherwise, go on holiday a lot and bring them back. They are about £10 for 200 in Turkey.

ceres 22 Feb 2005 12:46

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Here's a crazy idea, why not stop smoking?
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wu_trax 22 Feb 2005 13:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ceres
Here's a crazy idea, why not stop smoking?

smoking is cool and you know it.

ceres 22 Feb 2005 13:59

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Smoking, the act of, is cool.
Smoking, the addiction, is not.
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Nodrog 22 Feb 2005 14:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snurx
It would be better if everybody could ear-mark their own taxmoney, and thus get services after what they pay for. I don't pay for the army, I skip the draft. That crazy looney with the shotgun don't like healthcare, when the cops shoot him he has to stich himself up. Or, not. But, if you could decide what to spend taxes on yourself, it would be much better!

Wouldnt it be lot easier just not having taxation :confused:

Cannon_Fodder 22 Feb 2005 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodrog
Wouldnt it be lot easier just not having taxation :confused:

Wouldn't it be a lot easier without money....

Knight Theamion 22 Feb 2005 15:34

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tax is theft and extortion, half the time you do not see them stealing it, and when you do, they force you to pay in return you get some kind of 'protection'.


Maffia i tell you!

Dante Hicks 22 Feb 2005 18:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wu_trax
smoking is cool and you know it.

Heh, no.

If you smoke : You do not look like some cool dude from a movie. Those guys are cool to start with. The fact they're smoking is coincedental. Going round pretending to speak like a guy from a movie would not make you cool either.

If you smoke : You smell. Your house smells. Your clothes smell. Your teeth and hands are an off-shade of yellow. If anyone has the misfortune of kissing you; your mouth tastes worse than a pot-noodle.

Cannon_Fodder 22 Feb 2005 18:52

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Here Here.

wu_trax 22 Feb 2005 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
Heh, no.

If you smoke : You do not look like some cool dude from a movie. Those guys are cool to start with. The fact they're smoking is coincedental. Going round pretending to speak like a guy from a movie would not make you cool either.

If you smoke : You smell. Your house smells. Your clothes smell. Your teeth and hands are an off-shade of yellow. If anyone has the misfortune of kissing you; your mouth tastes worse than a pot-noodle.

i wasn't exactly serious with that statement ( it's a quote from friends :))


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