Vacmode / NFI / NewDawn
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Well, seems like conversation has gotten a bit carried away since the last time I was here! RE: NewDawn The NAP we had agreed upon (which ND HC 'had' a copy of, but have now conveniently lost) said that our agreed NAP was until PT790, and if we were going to renew it we'd need to do so 48 hours before hand. No such renewal agreement was made with any NFI HC. I only mention it, as DigiZero even commented on this in pm the day I'd announced we were going to end the nap. I'm at work (more on that later) just now so can't c/p the exact logs, but it went something along the lines of: DZ: "We were only napped until PT790 anyway, so why don't you just hit us now?" (trying to encourage me to start hostilities without the 16-hour agreed cool-off period. I also don't intent to make much of a fuss over the fact that you actually got 17 hours to prep rather than 16! <3 I can't remember who mentioned it on the other thread, but whoever it was said "if the NAP was meant to be indefinite, why was there a 16-hour end agreement?". Something that everyone in NewDawn ignored, conveniently. But yeah, it wasn't 'backstabbing' as we gave you notice of termination. It might not be pleasant, but we didn't do anything that wasn't in the terms of our NAP. Get over it. Besides, you have something new to whine about now! Last night I was talking to Tzu and our RL commitments for the upcoming week. Turns out, neither of us have the time to spare this week in running the alliance. Given the strength of the position we were in and the unlikelyhood of anything changing, we didn't see the point in actually playing the last week. We told everyone to vacmode for the rest of the round and enjoy the extra time off. Some people went straight in, others were planning on doing after fleets returned and others wanted to stick around and def those who didn't want to go into vacmode (various reasons). And we didn't want to spend more money on sms credit, as including credits, phone calls, skype and sms credits, we've spent what must be close to £400 now (not an exaggerated figure). It's been very costly, but hey - looks like one more investment is required to see us out now. Shit happens. That's pretty much all there is to it. The next 3 nights should be interesting anyway! NewDawn, friends kk? |
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Yeah lol.
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still a few nfi ppl in top10, time to take em down with others in vac mode i guess :D
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Nuh-uh.
And it took me a while to find the logs of DZ saying it; I thought he'd said it whilst I was on webirc and hadn't logged it. You ask NewDawn what our actual agreement was - they must still have it somewhere! |
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If not leaving them without most of the firepower on the opposite side of an angry mob is pretty low. |
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Then again thats what happens when you make an arrangement with NFI. |
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No warning this is why i ended NAP before i get accused of breaking my word.
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Not at all, Firebird. You do what makes you/yours happy, dude.
Same goes for CT. |
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Concerning T10 allies, it was 4 (or 5? not sure what Osi did) on NFI side vs 3 on ND side. But my comment has absolutely nothing to do with ND. It is more about general behavior. You fight a war together with other alliances. Suddenly you decide to drop out without warning, removing a considerable part of firepower, while the enemy block remains as strong as it was. The logical result of this is that your allies will get bashed. Two possibly conclusions: 1) You don't give a fart about your allies 2) You don't think about the consequences of your actions for a sec If you want to play a self-centered alliance that is ok - really. But your behavior the last few weeks send out a seriously strong warning towards any potential nap candidate you might've hoped for next round. I am wondering if there is anyone left... |
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RE: mz
All of them, I gave my forum account info to CBA for this round. He's been posting under my name. You have the kinda time that I do not, mz - hence the vacmode decision. I think it's important to point out that I've never said anything I haven't thought at the time (intentions of sticking by newdawn included) - it's just over a period of time one's mind is liable to change. And that last quote you made is 100% true, and isn't about what I do/do not intend/feel/believe but is what the actual agreement was. Is there any point in me posting logs of the conversation with DZ, or would the overall consensus be that I'd faked them? |
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I can only assume the laughable attempt you made in the quote above was intended to do exactly that (to induce laughter, that is (haha)). Quote:
In any case it doesn't matter when you lied, just that you did it. Either you lied when the nap was formed or you lied when you broke the nap or you lied a few days after breaking the nap or you're lying now. |
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Before i looked at [NFI] with respect and grin on my face.. Now all the good things have taken away and i'm sad. I hate you Kenny! :(
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Oh man, I missed this:
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Why are people even surprised, Kenny's shit, has always been shit and I doubt I've ever seen anyone get owned in the face this hard since I donkey punched his mum 6 years ago.
Go team mz! |
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Best. Round. Ever.
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The towel just dropped.
Going into vac mode because ppl start breaking naps and leaving half the alliance defenseless is über pro I guess. I wish I could be like Kenny. Btw it's a failed attempt to make a unique move in PA history. It just failed as it's lame. |
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just for a clarification, it was never an attempt to be original
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I honestly thought the comment about giving CBA my account details would be taken as the throw-away quip it was meant to be.
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this entire situation is retarded. going into vacmode, being removed with barely any notice. failure to disable vacmode in the first place. its just tons of retardedness piled ontop of tons more.
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However you have not a leg to stand on in relation to your whining. Either you were perfectly satisfied with the arbitrary removal of vac mode in every previous round (which just happened to occur at the same time each round!) or you knew that vac mode was removed with a week to go each round and decided **** it, I'm going for it and damn the consequences. Either way pateam could have dicked you all far more, my personal favourite would have been removing vac mode as an option but leaving everyone who'd gone in already in vac mode. |
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In what way could you classify it as a bug, exactly?
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If I was you Kenny, I would find a big black hole to hide in, shouldn't be too hard, every time you say something your mouth digging it deeper and deeper :D |
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it never had anything to do with getting the win or showing any kind of skills, it was all a matter of going with the flow we had :bunny: |
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this is as bug as the bug why Korsan and his gal got closed down; tho ure abusement of it is far bigger, as u didnt report it while Korsan did :P
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Stuff like this is exactly why I left NFI after being in their priv channel for half an hour before round started...
Still, looking forward to NFI's victory speech at EORC (and all of the nicktalking) :salute: |
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The Ascendancy troll squad trolling some more. FYI if Asc had done this, it woulda been leet
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The Apprime Retired Division of Speshuls approve of this thread.
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You think because every experienced football player should know that a match is 90 minutes means that they should stop trying to score? This was not a bug in any sense of the word, it was PATeam forgetting to do something. It doesn't matter what happens any other round, or whether they intended to do something. It was pure human error and I have absolutely no problem taking advantage of that, and anyone who says they would is talking balls. |
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No, it's because they know the fault would lie with the refereee (Apoccomaster) and not with the players (NFI).
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Which still doesn't place any kind of blame on the players for playing the final 10 minutes of the "extended" match. But I fear we're digressing somewhat.
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I honestly thought the comment about calling it a bug would be taken as the throw-away quip it was meant to be! Guess I'm not quite the accomplished comedian I thought I was.
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I always get a kick out of these threads at the end of each orund... it's always "someone's an a**h0L3, someone's a genious, someone screwed someone etc..... always a fun read.. so thank you everyone LOL
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Wow mz, that was an awful post.
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Good to see the inferiority complex going strong though. Maybe by round 48 people will have stopped measuring themselves against us! |
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You just made a clown out of yourself. Congratulations |
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