Taking a long overdue piss on 1up's propaganda bonfire
Where to start? Firstly apologies for the time it has taken to respond to 1up's propaganda.
I am glad that so many of you have seen through their guise of claiming that MISTU/FANG and maybe others have 'blocked'. From previous rounds of political experience I am sure that many of you will see this as their 'excuse' later on in the round to state " 'They Blocked first,' so we had to take some action " To set a few records straight: 1. MISTU is not 'allied' or 'NAPPED' with FaNG or any other alliance for that matter, nor do we have joint channels or whatever else has been said on 'the thread', with any other alliances. 2. Our members are free to attack who they want as the in-game alliance feature stops them from attacking each other. (The only time we had to get someone to recall so far was when they were attacking someone that had applied to join us). We do try to avoid members hitting gals that also have other MISTU members in though. 3. We have no joint battlegroups with other alliances. Our attacks are run in channels on our own server and these channels are only accessable by our members. If you need any form of proof on this matter have a chat with any of our members or any of your spies, as I assume we have a few on board with us. Regarding this 'joint battlegroup' either: (a) quit creating your propaganda, (b) get better intel or (c) do both 4. We have been attacking 1up as other alliances will also have (suppose it was easier to try to tie us with Fang as we were allied at the end of last round, so easier to try to make it stick.) [n.b. read points 1 and 2 again] MISTU have spoken with HC of other alliances and it seems they were also gunning for the top alliance as were we. We havent coordinated attacks with other alliances . (As previously stated in point 3 we do our own thing). 5. We have been having incoming from early on from both 1up and LCH. One galaxy with a few of our members in has been hit several times by 1up, but surprisingly none of the LCH in there came under fire even though propaganda grandmaster Sid has 'informed' us that the only friendly planets in his arbiter are 1up. No need really to say much more except to leave you with this: Quote:
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Right. Why do i sense a lack of proof in about every post on Alliance Discussions
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Before lokken posted it. |
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<x> we got incomins from 1up last morin <x> and LCH in my gal :9 didnt get incoming again <x> so seems LCH 1up tho not napped <x> but @least avoiding each others <Fork> that is a NAP :P <x> yep x is not online atm so I am not going to say who he is. he will hopefully come forward and give his account |
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i can imagine it now *nick Fork /query LB|away p.s. we are attacking these 1up gals tonight xx:xx xx:xx x:xx <LB|away> how coincidental as we are attacking the rest of the gals <Fork> btw u didn't see me, right? <LB|away> ofc ;) |
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I didn't see anywhere up there that you attack FAnG when doing Ally attacks.
did you just forget to mention it? or don't you organize ally attack on FAnG ? (Not trolling or flaming , honest and valid question) |
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If a target is claimed and not launched upon, that is treated as suspicious behaviour within the alliance - including that of command. |
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if it's not in the ingame alliance it is being attacked when interesting enough I would say |
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sigh unless it was intented that way. |
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lol zh|l, no members keep themselves busy jgp a whole galaxy to see if everyone launched ;) and aside to that mostly only officers or HC does that which means if an officer or hc takes the target still no1 knows or wont be bothered to check it and then if they did whats a member got to say to their hc or officer ......
member : "officer" you took a target but didnt launched on it naughty naughty !¡ officer : none of your business or you get kicked .... i can even remember some others did it less obvious in r10. |
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I'd estimate we have 80-90% of mistu coords and about 50-60% of LCH. Of the ones have, there's no galaxy which has mistu in and has an LCH planet at #9 spot. Of course (assuming you're telling the truth) it could be a planet we haven't identified the alliance of - or an LCH in a galaxy where we haven't identified the Mistu. No targets are pre-booked in our attacks (except for 1 planet yesterday which most definitely WAS attacked) and officers running an attack are not allowed to take targets until last - to avoid any accusations of bias. I can think of a few explanations for what you're saying: 1. You're lieing. I note that between your first post and the one i'm quoting it's already dropped from "none of the LCH planets (plural)" to "#9" - maybe by your next post it'll have changed to "actually they all got hit". 2. You're being lied to. 3. Planet 9 was one of those targets that noone wants to hit - too few roids, too balanced a fleet or whatever. 4. The planet is closed - have you tried checking that isn't under admins' protection - we always leave those alone in our attacks. |
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Fork stop being a twat.
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This is in no way proof of the fact theres a NAP between these 2 alliances! PULLEEZZ - get a brain, before I dish out a list of your so-called NAP's between alliances, which would be solely based on the last 3 attacks on my gal in which certain planets were not hit. |
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1. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck .. 2. Wasn't aware blocking/allying put force-fields around your roids preventing roid-loss. 3. Fork acknowledges that Mistu deliberately focussed on 1up - what are we expected to do? Attack someone else? 4. Noone ever said it was a good block :) 5. Kind of hard to sneak up the ranks when you're already #1 |
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Isn't that how every alliance does it? |
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ehh. no
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(Why is this debate still going heh - it's not like either side will convince the other, and 1up already have the rest of the board muppets convinced) |
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I can say with 100% conviction, and no hidden agenda, that I have never reserved some targets as friendly, or been told to. And noone has been asked to recall because we're hiting a friendly. I check in the arby. If it has 1up, it isn't a valid target. If there are no 1up, then it's all go and free to hit. Simple as that. Twist my words how you want, but anyone reading that knows exactly what I mean. I'm not trying to hide something behind my words. I have no hidden meaning. Unless by some freak coincidence we share every galaxy with LCH, then 1up has no qualms with hitting planets that belong to LCH. |
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nice block u got there 1up.
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I think some of the people posting on this thread should be forced to play Risk until they 'get it'.
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That game would take longer than playing Zhil :-/
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For an alliance that is so totally against blocking, does anyone else find it ironic that some of the leadership of 1up invented it in round 2 ?
~Vaio~ |
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That has nothing to do with Risk. |
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Re: the ":9" in the original quote. :9 is a failed smiley. close to ":o". i'd put forth that he was not referring to planet #9. |
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What's the problem here? FAnG is definately losing. If I were FAnG HC I'd say: we are losing. 1UP is aparantly doing better than us. We are getting bashed. We have no other option to survive then block with X.
Do you realy think that would be sufficient reason for 1UP to block? Or for LCH? Syn_Sid already said he wouldn't block if 2 others did. He claimed he could still outplay them. Let him prove that. Same thing for Rock and Wolfpack: if you are losing bad, you should block. When counterblocks of sufficient size were formed in previous rounds it was always after stagnation set in. Be in time this round plz. |
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at the time that FAnG and MISTU were first accused of their supposed block FAnG was #2, or recently dropped by that good night of roiding by LCH. Since then FAnG has been losing roids faster than a 15 year old looking at pr0n for the first time. MISTU has not done any better. At this point a FAnG / MISTU block would not have nearly the same impact as it could have had 4 days ago.
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1) Officers/HCs NEVER EVER preclaim targets, ifanct we try to avoid attacking (or claiming if you will) in our own raids. 2) 1up has a galaxy nap with all galaxies containing 1up, galaxies not containing 1up are free to attack. When a galaxy is targetted, all planets are attempted covered. 3) Ive seen a preclaimed target ONCE since I started as a 1up officer (seen my share of targets you can prolly imagine), and that was for a scanner who really needed the roids to do his work. -TheRat |
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Fork
Nice words but please remember. I pissed on Icy's bonfire, after drinking all her punch. She stabbed me. Be afraid, be VERY afraid. |
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Guys guys guys..... Stop it.... I can't take it anymore!
Sid, Tomkat, TheRat I see you defending 1up's honor over here.. Nothing wrong with that. You are typing stuff like.. I can tell you I never do this, i've never seen that and it's not like that. Sure this all can be true, but c'mon, if i'm on the other side (Mistu/Fang) why should I have any reasons to believe you? you are the enemy? I can post stuff(Like Eddie_v) did, which are valid explainations and stuff that has happenend before. So all you are saying might come out of a good heart, but I(and others) cannot verify your statements, your the enemy so why the hell should it be true? <-- This is not my opinion, I just want to state how useless those post are. To the "other" side. Fork started good. As HC he is the one who should state he ain't napping, blocking or whatever. But point #5 (The LCH, 1up assumption) should have been left out. Why make a thread about denying a rumor and then stating one yourself? These so called incidents could be based on so many other reasons then LCH and 1up agreements. And if there is such an agreement I doubt other then the HC knows it, so officers might post within there believes, the might not even know what's happening. On the other side... One planet not attacked could indeed be an unclaimed planet, someone who didn't launched, a LCH guy who is spying for 1up or 100 of other reasons. You(Fork) was right in making this thread, but then throwing rumors back at LCH/1up brings you to the same level as the rumor machine 1up.... <-- Still love you ofc... |
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If we do not answer, we just give them a reason to believe what is being said.
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Rumors often lead to "defensive mode". It's not wrong you are doing it. But if i'm 1up, and spread rumors on the board(True or untrue ones) we doubt the rumor, but also the defensive answers of the accused alliance. Now Fork spread a rumor and exactly the same happens. Ofc we need some spam on the boards else it would be boring, nothing wrong with that. But often these rumors lead to blocking, and the rumor itself was just a wrong assumption. But this is what PR and politics are all about... Ain't we having fun :) |
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For goodness sake, waffle. They're (a) tiny (b) in vacation (c) still in initial protection or (d) closed. That's what an N/A is for.
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As an MO it's my job to mark certain targets as N/A - I can provide you with logs of every raid I've run, if that would satisfy your curiosity about why they are marked N/A, and I can say with absolute certainty that the only planets ever marked N/A are those too small to hit, closed, or under protection (the PA kind, not the alliance kind).
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I'm not going to bother replying to all the aforementioned twaddle posted by Fork and the other "1up are teh evhul" ****wits, it's not like I give a flying **** what you think either way.
I can say, without any word of a lie (and theres no point in me lying becuase your opinions are something I couldn't have less interest in) that 1up have not reserved a single target in a raid for any reason other than the scanner hitting one of the little guys in the gal. that is a rare occurance as scanners roids are nowhere near as much a benefit to the alliance as full playing members other than in the very early stages of a round (no offence intended /me <3 1up scanners). Other than scanners taking them we have ahd the odd instance of planets being closed by the admins. We have policy whereby the officers running the raid are not permitted to take a target until all members interested in taking a target have had their pick. If an officer wants a target then someone else runs the raid and they have the fastest finger first after -m like everyone else. As I'm led to believe this isn't the case in MISTU and that members regularly get ****ed over by officers taking the sweetest targets. So this is how it is. Argue all you like, I may get rund to reading it next month when I have little else to do other than read the drivel endlessly spewing from these forums. PS - Fork, I always thought better of you. Sad to see you like the rest of the muppets. |
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would you like a coords list as well Rumad?
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Now please go and do the right thing, delete your forum account. |
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