The backup plan
I'm not here to talk about the movie. I haven't seen it yet, so no spoilers please!
Since signups are 6 days away and it's not sure yet if the other set will be ready in time i thought it prudent to have a backup plan ready to go at a moments notice if needed. Be it this round or during a future round. To see the backup plan Click here. All constructive thoughts/comments/suggestions welcome. |
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Thought we had allready decided to go with this set since you stopped accepting new stats proposals two months ago.
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Super quick glance (it's 1am and I've had 2hrs sleep in the last 24)
De fort for the typical boring bunker down tags with organised def. If 4 man bp leave out xan as it doesn't seem to be good for anything Xan could really use at least 1 ship to prefire something |
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From history: http://beta.planetarion.com/history/...?id=4&round=70
Universe total: Ter: 188 Cat: 178 Zik: 110 Xan: 172 Etd: 54 Notable alliances: App: 25 TER 18 CAT 6 XAN 1 ZIK 9 ETD Ult: 13 TER 16 CAT 14 ZIK 13 XAN 4 ETD p3ng: 3 TER 18 CAT 14 ZIK 19 XAN 4 ETD ND: 1 TER 15 CAT 14 ZIK 25 XAN 3 ETD ----------- |
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Spacebricks?
I guess I'll have to start a Stats for Next Round? thread earlier from here on out. Kudos for the backup plan. |
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These stats look far too defensive at first glance.
The removal of a fi pod (changed xan fi pod to co pod from the last time these stats were used) means DE hits 4 out of 5 pod classes now with the only thing it doesn't hit is itself. |
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lets go with these stats
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Maybe changing targetting so that peg dosnt target CO and FR? |
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This set is very familiar to me and the alliance i played in (yes there's a few changes). Logic would dictate that ill be one of the player that would be in-favor of this set. I remember an alliance saw the most viable strat class/es (DE mainly, with 1/3 of ally using CO) for this, the few changes actually made DE better.
I am not in favor of this set to be rehashed, mainly because.
I find Kaiba's set interesting, yes it has flaws (most he already addressed though). Maybe stats team can focus / exert energy in solving them. |
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If we are digging up old stats, a rehash from R70 seems awfully recent and risks being a wet fish. |
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the "meta" was much diffrent 20 rounds ago, than 2 rounds ago, so making good changes to a set based on past rounds would be easier. |
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But you do make a good point about the FI CO pods. I should have switched the FI and CO pods the other way around. I looked at the options of tweaking it without too much impact too the rest with the given timeframe. Without more changes to overall targetting the change itself wouldn't have much impact at this stage. I might tweak a few other ships to be strongver versus DE. Will have a better impact. I'll defi include this if we reuse this set a 4th time |
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Kaiba did submit his set in time, but due to his personal life their were alot of delays which caused the late posting of the set. |
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I worry that these stats are too defensively because of the strength of DE. I'd imagine a number of the top allys aka ult, app, bf etc would go de and be very successful with it. Thus the round becoming too defensively, as the leading ally would have too much value to land on. You can also put me in the camp of wanting Kaiba stats to be run for next round especially if a third pod gets added. |
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I agree with Swainey that tons of value can be poured into DE for defense purposes. As is, Ter can 3 ship build out nixs, pegs, drakes. Cover all classes, or go all attack, with all ter de/bs and cover all attacking classes with 4 ships, since anti-fi isn't needed for defense with this set, nor needed by DE/BS attack classes. I personally would like to see a fi class from some race. Another option to weaken DE would be to remove the fact that DE and BS target each other. Thus resulting in the need to build additional types of ships so, so much value can not be poured into a few ships.
So.. Ter - Remove t2 from drake/wyv Cat - Scarab De->FR Remove t2 from Tars Xan - Wraith - remove t2 Zik - none ETD - Ranger - Change to ST on CR |
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These stats were decent during the rounds and keep the integrity of having different races/compositions intact. I personally would like to see some older sets rerun or even a throw back of war/science or pds. But maybe a shorter round. Could even go as to say no alliances and randomize your gal n go with that. exile requirements being changed a little so people don't bounce around. All ideas I've seen on IRC/tg that raised an eye brow.
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sorry to say, but this DE set seems aweful
suggested changes by PK might make this enjoyable, or add the third pod to Kaiba's but both suggested sets in its current form, make me wanna skip the round |
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I liked Sid's stats, back in the day tbh
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